Cutting - Deficit via expenditure vs Caloric intake

[AllOkJumpmaster]

I take ECA+20mg Y pre fasted cardio, what does the l tyrosine do?

Tyrosine helps kick up the release and response to catecholamines

 

[gauge22-v2]

5mg yohimbine is too low of a dose, your dose should be 0.2mg/Kg of bodyweight, for best results you need to be completely fasted (as little circulating insulin as possible). Even the slightest bit of insulin pretty much shuts down the alpha 2-adrenergic receptor antagonist properties...you can also pair with 2g L-Tyroisne, and 200mg caffeine for the most effective combo.

another thing you can try to get your NEAT up without further cutting food is to wear weighted vest / clothes / ruck when walking your dog or doing anything where you are moving your body (pretty ineffective if just sitting around). The other reason we hit stalls behind metabolic rate slowing to adjust for lower intakes, is that it requires less calories to move the smaller lighter version of you through space. Replacing the lost weight with weighted clothing when moving requires the body to love our old load, and also ha some very preliminary research that it may even stave off some of the hormonal downregulation from getting leaner with regards to leptin and ghrelin.

I personally have had a lot of success doing this. I prefer one that looks like this. I have a 35lber, but because it wears like a pack and is made of sand it, it distributes weight evenly and is comfortable you truly don't even notice its there, but less than say a plate carrier style or just wearing a rucksack.

Obviously, you can just add and or up steady-state cardio as well, but if you are looking for some more convenient options, and enjoyable options its worth a try. I threw on the 35lb vest and go on a 40 minute dog walk and I am taking off a couple hundo extra cals without evening really "making an adjustment"

Lastly, I don't want to insult your intelligence because I am sure you already know this, but another tactic if you hate cutting food is just to do a diet comb-through. a lot of times even experienced dieters have, how do I say it, "calories on the table" no pun intended. Meaning there are places you can make a swap or an adjustment to your meals and suffer virtually no food volume / satiety losses but find an extra 100 up to sometimes 300 cals. Finding more voluminous options that are lower calorie. This is obviously very individual depending on what you are already eating and digestion etc, but swap one meal with rice out for cauli rice or palmini rice and free up 25grams of carbs or switch from 93/7 to 96/4 beef and free up a few fats.

Will up the Yoh slightly but wont be jumping up to 19mg (as per your calcs). Im an oldie (52) so I do try to avoid stims to a large extent. I do always take it fasted in the am, americano then LISS.

I do have a weighted vest! Just have to find that bitch.

Will try PSMF on non-workout days (2 per week), more Yoh, and weighted vest in the morning for my dog walking.

Thx for the suggestions.

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

Will up the Yoh slightly but wont be jumping up to 19mg (as per your calcs). Im an oldie (52) so I do try to avoid stims to a large extent. I do always take it fasted in the am, americano then LISS.

I do have a weighted vest! Just have to find that bitch.

Will try PSMF on non-workout days (2 per week), more Yoh, and weighted vest in the morning for my dog walking.

Thx for the suggestions.

word, yeah, yohimbine hcl can have some really shitty effects for some...

if you can't find a vest, you can even just throw some books or weight plates in a old backpack or something and throw it on, 25-35lbs actually will make a lot of difference and not feel like too much if its not dragging your shoulders and traps too hard. If you can replace the amount of weight you have lost on the cut, that will make a lot of impact. good luck and let us know how it turns out / if you can get the scale moving a bit

 

[lynxeffect1]

I have at age 51 had a change of mind regarding this. If I am not very active then I don't eat much food, I prefer a PSMF type of diet where I eat very low calories but I have a carbohydrate refeed every 5-7 days, I have never lost fat more efficiently than I do this method.

In the past I was a move more eat more type of guy.

Do you refeed every 5-7 days only when you hit a stop in weight loss or right from week 1 of dieting ? How many cals / carbs on the refeed day ?

 

[tornquad201]

I prefer to up cardio

 

[juggy38]

How stalled are you? If your food is quite low, and you are really at 13,000 steps every day, it might be time to do 1-2 weeks of a surplus of trace fat/med protein/all the carbs.

Also, some thrifty gene people, like myself, have to go pretty fucking low on calories to get to extreme ranges. (<8% ish)

Pharmacological interventions…25-37.5 T3+75mcg T4 will push my thyroid to the very top or a little over the normal range. This can be beneficial if you are just fucking road blocked and you HAVE to continue dieting.

If you’re just slowing down on loss and not totally stuck……a dash of B2 agonist (I prefer albuterol over clen), or low dose DNP (125-250mg ED) can get the shit moving again.

And like @slesh said….more gh= more lipolysis. BUT you have to oxidize the liberated FFAs

 

[hogan87]

The body adapts fairly quickly. There is only so much extra movement you can do before it becomes a detriment and catabolic. There is a benefit, health and comfort limit to more drugs added. A refeed with carbs every 7-10 days will not stop fat lost, but instead will HELP fat loss! So if you are stalled out on the diet, cut kcal to the bottom, doing 20k steps plus workout, then take a day off and f*cking eat something! Then get back to it. Months long kcal deficit is just stupid and outdated

 

[3BILLS]

How stalled are you? If your food is quite low, and you are really at 13,000 steps every day, it might be time to do 1-2 weeks of a surplus of trace fat/med protein/all the carbs.

Also, some thrifty gene people, like myself, have to go pretty fucking low on calories to get to extreme ranges. (<8% ish)

Pharmacological interventions…25-37.5 T3+75mcg T4 will push my thyroid to the very top or a little over the normal range. This can be beneficial if you are just fucking road blocked and you HAVE to continue dieting.

If you’re just slowing down on loss and not totally stuck……a dash of B2 agonist (I prefer albuterol over clen), or low dose DNP (125-250mg ED) can get the shit moving again.

And like @slesh said….more gh= more lipolysis. BUT you have to oxidize the liberated FFAs

Pharmacological interventions ? Wtf

Pretty sure he's done his cut also