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Cycle critque

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Ok guys and gals... Wondering if some of you would be good enough to recommend a cycle for me based on the following gear i have in my ammo box:

I have many cycles of experience over my 35 years, but have never attempted going much over 1.5g/week, nor have I ever tried GH or peptides. My goal is to break my previous 200lb bodyweight record whilst being ripped for once. I'd rather have more strength than size. If I were to choose between more emphasis on fat loss vs. muscle gain, I'd choose the fat loss as I've never been really lean before. I must see my abs this next round. Of course I'd like to see good quality muscle gain too :). If I can gain 20lbs LBW, and loose 10lb fat I might even be happy at 200lbs. For strength I am looking to bench 405lbs, and squat 495(or more if my knees recover). I do not and will not compete - dont have perfect genetics for that.

I will try to plan my cycle here... but I don't pretend to be the expert, so I leave up to those interested to critique and improve. I want to make the best out of what I have. Thanks alot

My stats are:
5'8" 190lbs off cycle. not sure of BF - maybe 15% (I can see an outline of my top abs)?
315b, 400s

Ammo box contents
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1ml IGF-1R3 (willing to pick up 1 more)
600iu GH
lotsa iu Humulog R
10ml 200mg/ml Deca (this for my joint soreness)
30ml 100mg/ml Tren
40ml 300mg/ml Test Cyp
5000mg d-bol
2500mg anadrol
6000mcg T3
lotsa clen,ephed.

PCT
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30mg Cabaser
75mg letro
1000mg nova
1500mg clomid
30mg Keto
10000iu HCG

General
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15% rogaine
finasteride
Liv.52
NO

My 9 month plan:

General
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*always using NO supplement as it makes me feel super energetic for training, and Glu/Condrot,MSM for my @#(*&!?! accutane ravanged joints
*1.25mg finasteride per day with 15% rogaine at night, 5x Liv.52 per day
*throw in 1-2cc per week when joint problems arise
*use letro (.5mg/day) as emergency gyno treatment as needed
*use cabaser (.5mg/day) as emergency tren included gyno treatment as needed

preceeding 1st month (preparation)
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- alternate ECA stack(25/200/325)x3 per day with clen (up to 100mcg) per day. alternate each 2 weeks
- take Keto to upregulate beta receptors after third week (1mg per night)


1st month:
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-Never used IGF before so I want to see how works in my natural state:
-use for 1 month 20mcgx2 per workout day, shot in lagging bodypart (trained last in session)
-use t3 only if body temperature drops in morning readings, and feel lethargic throughout the day

2nd month:
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travelling for a few weeks, so nothing going on here.

3nd month:
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-Start out with 2iu GH per day (5 on 2 off) Work up to 5iu per day
-use t3 only if body temperature drops in morning readings, and feel lethargic throughout the day
-start GH and test cyp/dbol at same time ramping up to full dose in 3 weeks time (1000mg cyp per week, 40mg dbol/day)

4th month:
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-5iu per day GH (5 on 2 off)
-start out very conservative with 3iu insulin post workout, work up to 10iu if feel ok (1 month only)
-[if people feel it is very beneficial (and synergistic) I can grab another IGF to use - just for 1 month tho)
-throw in the Tren 50mgED

5th month:
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-5iu per dayGH (5 on 2 off)
-remove tren if sides are too bad
-remove dbol, switch to adrol(50mg/day)
-remain on test cyp
-cycle down on starting mid 2nd week of month

6th month:
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-5iu per dayGH (5 on 2 off)
-PCT: clomid 50mg-100mg/day
HCG (2500iu ea. week until balls full again)
nolvadex 20mg/day

7th month:
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-5iu per dayGH (5 on 2 off)

8th month:
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-5iu per dayGH (5 on 2 off)
repeat 3rd month for AAS (give or take)

9th month:
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-5iu per dayGH (5 on 2 off)
repeat 4th month for AAS (give or take)

10th month
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repeat 6th month (GH is finished)

Concerns and questions:
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-DO NOT want to develop 'Coleman Gut' !!
-Would like to keep my hair that I have left (above precautions should do the trick)
-Dont want to grow breasts (above precautions should do the trick)
-I know GH works best with AAS, but I dont want to do a heavy cycle for 6 months. i feel that is too harsh. should i just do a regular 3 month cycle, and quit the AAS, or 3 monther and a maintenance AAS ? just scared being on that long. or maybe 2month AAS, 2 month small main,2 month AAS = GH cycle length??
-i have read about the theory of 5iu 5/2 vs. 10iu EOD where is former is more fore fat loss, and later for muscle gain. What about during my 2month AAS cycle I do the EOD dosage, then scale back to the 5iu 5xweek for 2 months for fat loss. based on the results i see at end of 4th month i can decide to continue the fat loss protocol, or jump back on the EOD delivery?
-What losses can I expect after the 10th month? I will attempt to eat and train even smarter at this time.

Hope I did leave anything out or overlook, got tired writing that much.

Thanks for your help in advance
 
F*ck me!

If you put this much detail into telling us about your training & nutrition, we might be able to get somewhere.
Gear is not the end all/be-all. In my opinion, for your size & experience, seems like you may want to pay more attention to nutrition and a good training program. It will save you $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ AND give you better results.
 
If you put this much detail into telling us about your training & nutrition, we might be able to get somewhere.
Gear is not the end all/be-all. In my opinion, for your size & experience, seems like you may want to pay more attention to nutrition and a good training program. It will save you $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ AND give you better results.

I agree!
 
If you put this much detail into telling us about your training & nutrition, we might be able to get somewhere.
Gear is not the end all/be-all. In my opinion, for your size & experience, seems like you may want to pay more attention to nutrition and a good training program. It will save you $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ AND give you better results.

thanks for the constructive help

Well, it is true most of us can always do with better nutritional habits and training programs can always be revised and improved upon too. I am sure you are correct with your suggestions pertaining to myself too - although I think I do pretty well in that area. However I dont see how this alone will aid me to accomplish my goals. I could not even reach those goals 'enhanced' .. ever. Granted I have never used as much gear as I mentioned above.
This is going to be my one last ditch effort to get there. I will throttle back from here on in. (famous last words) :rolleyes:
 
NO! No one can "recomend" a cycle - read the Board Rules!
 
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