Deca vs NPP

dabeast75 · Mar 27, 2010

Looking for some opinions and views on the difference between the two, i.e. practical knowledge.

I have read almost everywhere that NPP is actually superior to deca in that you have more quality time "on" as it kicks in faster and is out of your system quicker, doesnt give you as much bloat, is easier to maintain, etc. But is that actually so?

NPP it seems is not as "popular" as Deca. Might be an availability point or the fact that deca has been around forever, whereas NPP has only boomed in the recent years IMO. I am a big fan of deca, but hate the bloat. NPP seems perfect.

Would be interested to hear people's views on NPP compared to deca, preferably from people who have used both substances before and noticed a difference or not. What i DON'T want is people telling me a bunch of theoretical diahrrea. I know the theory. I am interested in practical knowledge of the substance, which often differs from paper.

slio gu · Mar 27, 2010

The ND for me. Nan phenyl isnt that popular for a reason imo.
Its usually a low dose (100mg) its a lot more painful of an injection
(100mg Np is more painful then 300mg ND shot) and it has to be taken a lot more often. Its easily available. Every Raw source in china has it.
People just dont buy it and the ones that do normaly dont buy it more then once

If your wanting something with more kick and less bloat then ND there are better choices of hormones then NPP. Ive used it, sold it and my real world experience is it kinda sucks

Its out there though for guys that have to learn the hard way or for the few and far between that believe its the best choice for them.

tap · Mar 27, 2010

I like npp with test prop better than my regular deca ,test enathate stack.Less bloat , awsome pumps but i usually only run it a month becuz of the eod pinning.

Ness · Mar 27, 2010

tap said:
I like npp with test prop better than my regular deca ,test enathate stack.Less bloat , awsome pumps but i usually only run it a month becuz of the eod pinning.

It has a 5 day halflife....pin it e3d...eod is not needed.

dabeast75 · Mar 27, 2010

Thanks for the replies so far.

SLIO GU, thanks for your input bro. Your main criticism of NPP is that it is low dosed and that its a relatively painful injection. Fair enough. But what about the actual gains? You say that the product generally sucks and say that there are better AAS. Would you mind telling me which ones? Test is king obviously and should be in every stack regardless of what else you take. Primo is pretty weak, so is EQ and takes forever to kick in. So that really only leaves Tren, which has horrible sides for most people. Please fill me in.

NESS, yes that seems right - most people pin every 3rd day as opposed to EOD. Mind telling me your experience with NPP?

slio gu · Mar 27, 2010

dabeast75 said:
Thanks for the replies so far.

SLIO GU, thanks for your input bro. Your main criticism of NPP is that it is low dosed and that its a relatively painful injection. Fair enough. But what about the actual gains? You say that the product generally sucks and say that there are better AAS. Would you mind telling me which ones? Test is king obviously and should be in every stack regardless of what else you take. Primo is pretty weak, so is EQ and takes forever to kick in. So that really only leaves Tren, which has horrible sides for most people. Please fill me in.

NESS, yes that seems right - most people pin every 3rd day as opposed to EOD. Mind telling me your experience with NPP?

dabeast,
As far as gains I never noticed it to be anything amazing or powerful.
Mild results compared to tren or even var. I agree with you test is #1. I also agree primo is weak from my experiences as well. Winny makes me feel like a 100 yr old man

Personally i myself would rather have a long list of stuff over NPP though.
Tren,mast,Var,EQ,Halo to name a few. NPP would be way down at the bottom of my personal choices. It may work great for you though a guy can only try it and see. Just throwing you my opinion from my experiences. good luck to ya

Iron Gator · Mar 28, 2010

I used it several times with test. I liked it a lot. Very quick acting and solid gains with it. I liked it a lot better than tren because the sides weren't nearly as harsh. I also pin E3D instead of EOD.

dabeast75 · Mar 29, 2010

Thanks guys.

BUMP

Anyone else....??

bears26 · Mar 29, 2010

bump

Anymore info would be great guys on npp because im about to put an order in to gauls and if this npp is good im gonna wait til next week then im gonna run it with test e, eq and dbol..

NZRABBIT · Mar 29, 2010

Deca made a mess of my blood measures. RBC and haematocrit were way too high (age 30). Does anyone know if NPP would have a reduced effect in this arena?

tap · Mar 30, 2010

Ness said:
It has a 5 day halflife....pin it e3d...eod is not needed.

True but I always run it with test prop and when i do 3days instead of eod i get some sides(acne) from the test prop and i have yet to find any test phprop to run with it. but yeah every third day would be much more tolerable for me.

Dog-Slime · Apr 27, 2010

Doing a little research on npp and wanted to bump this thread as someone said npp can be shot e3d (and have heard elsewhere e4d) but when comparing the active life the esters pp is almost identical to prop.

Dunno how to post the graphs. Check the link: If you notice the e2d on the prop and phenylprop are very similiar. The e3d on th phenyl is do-able but does have a fair amount of fluctuation occuring

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355493

kscowboy · Apr 27, 2010

NPP is painful. But i love the gains especially when stacked with prop. Injecting eod. I am going to run some more npp next week and going to try to cut it with some sterile grape seed oil to see if that helps.

Johnny Smiles · Apr 27, 2010

i agree

Ness said:
It has a 5 day halflife....pin it e3d...eod is not needed.

that is correct. i would use it over deca any day but i wouldn't use either today knowing what i know.
in short, test is best.
-JS

wukillabee · Apr 27, 2010

kscowboy said:
NPP is painful. But i love the gains especially when stacked with prop. Injecting eod. I am going to run some more npp next week and going to try to cut it with some sterile grape seed oil to see if that helps.

whats up with all the painful comments? Gauls npp is 100% painless! Im doin ed shots of test prop, npp, and mast prop, all 100% painless! Getting solid results, im liking it better then deca for sure for above mentioned reasons. Kicks in faster, out of system faster, painless, whats wrong with it? Love the lubing factor and strength too!

Yohimbe33 · Apr 27, 2010

NPP over deca any day-recovery is better and effects quicker. You can also do shorter cycles.
The big thing for me about nandrolene is the effects on the joints-nothing takes care of joints like nandrolene, and it seems to last. My joints were killing me after a winny cycle and went on nandrolene. Joints felt better than they had done in years and lasted long after the cycle. Took about 6 months before I noticed the familiar elbow pains, and even then it was never as bad as it was.

I've used EQ, but nothing compares to nandrolene as far as joint recovery goes.
The gains are ok, but there are better compounds for growth. But NPP is a must with winny IMO.

dabeast75 · Apr 28, 2010

Johnny Smiles - I respect your opinion bro. I have seen that you and Phil both say that you would never touch deca. Yes test is king, but would you mind telling me why deca is such a no no in your eyes? i keep seeing research that indicates that it is not the healthiest or safest compound (contrary to 99% of all profiles and write-ups since the 70s), but neither is tren... any input you could offer to clear things up would be great.

Yohimbe - you mentioned there are better compounds for growth. would you mind telling me which one? i dont mean to hijack my own thread, so you can PM me if you like....

:st:r-wars

Ashop · Apr 28, 2010

dabeast75 said:
Looking for some opinions and views on the difference between the two, i.e. practical knowledge.

I have read almost everywhere that NPP is actually superior to deca in that you have more quality time "on" as it kicks in faster and is out of your system quicker, doesnt give you as much bloat, is easier to maintain, etc. But is that actually so?

NPP it seems is not as "popular" as Deca. Might be an availability point or the fact that deca has been around forever, whereas NPP has only boomed in the recent years IMO. I am a big fan of deca, but hate the bloat. NPP seems perfect.

Would be interested to hear people's views on NPP compared to deca, preferably from people who have used both substances before and noticed a difference or not. What i DON'T want is people telling me a bunch of theoretical diahrrea. I know the theory. I am interested in practical knowledge of the substance, which often differs from paper.

NPP is just like a faster acting DECA for me.
I get very similar results when compared overall.

xsincity82x · Apr 29, 2010

Ive loved it NO pain and i havent experienced as much bloating for sure I dont like that its 100mg/ml I already have to do too many shots a week but aside from that npp i great