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Diminishing returns

N1klas

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At what dosage have you experienced the gains to diminish/stop?

Currently running 400 test p with 400 npp and 30mg dbol.

For my next blast I'm considering something like:
600mg test e
500mg tren a
300mg npp

But I'm wondering whether it's worth upping the dose or not.

My blasts are only 8 weeks, so I use fast esters(except test). Have you seen a lot better gains with proper nutrition and training going from 1g to 1,5g and from 1,5g to 2g?

I have been tranining for 8 years and just wondering if it's worth trying something like 2000mg(won't go over that).
 

asteelz

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Short answer yes, you will see more gain and more sides
 

XstarchildX

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The point where gains stall can be a myriad of factors: The need to increase calories due to an increased body weight (RMR is now higher than at a lower body weight), not increasing overall work volume, load, or intensity over a period of time, myostatin, etc.

Increasing dose, in essence, will work as long as one also takes care of any of the above factors--namely an increase in caloric intake--first.
 

thethinker48

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Anytime you start to feel like shit pull back.

You can only build muscle so fast, adding more drugs won't necessarily accelerate the process, but will accelerate the side effects.

Whenever that idiot voice in my head tells me to up the dose or try "this"; I tell myself. I'll do that now, but then 10 years from now, how am I going to progress? What about 15? Will I make it that far if I keep upping it?
 

MonkeyBoy

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I think it also comes back to what are you goals? Are competing? Are you just trying to look good...if its #2 - why go more ??? If its working...why change it?

Not saying that is right, ask yourself, what do you want out of it?
 

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