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DNP as nootropic/life extension

aphextwin

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Is this thread for real? I'm a fan of DNP, but not for longevity. I haven't used it in a while but have plenty......Please NO one PM me for sources.
 

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I worked at the Vitamin Shoppe back in the day when that was a fad and had a bunch of older women coming in looking for it and raving about what they heard. That was the dumbest fad diet I’ve ever heard of to this day and my sentiments were identical to your own. Surely it was the HCG and not the damn calorie deficit that caused the weight loss... humans can be so stupid.

One time I went on a date with someone around 2011 and I had to suggest like 4 different restaurants before there was something on the menu she could eat. She was on the HCG diet and basically her whole life revolved around that diet. She couldn't drink alcohol either.
 

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I like you already. Great info! Most guys join the board with dumbass first posts but here you are dropping some knowledge. Respect

Thanks! I specifically joined just to resurrect this DNP thread, I'm not into lifting, actually. And, I'm glad I can contribute in this way.

How would you even measure such a small dose like this?

Volumetric dosing using an ethanol + water solution. I personally weighed out 90mg on a $20 Gemini-20 milligram scale, added to 15mL vodka + 15mL water, and ended up with a 3mg/mL solution that's easily dosed with a 1mL oral syringe.

I love hearing shit like this. Im assuming he was on the 3mg/day protocol as well? Awesome! And the point of this entire thread! It works, and it works well and it works long term!

Yep, 3mg/day!

i dont see where that post even mentioned dnp?

It's not specifically mentioned in that text, no, but that text is excerpted from a post in a nootropics group in which the poster shares his discovery of DNP, the mechanisms of action with low dosing, and, as quoted, his experience with it.

You only need a high precision scale.

So would it be nice to have 5-10mg dosages while I am off more powerful 300mg cycles? Interesting

Even lower. 2-3mg. One of the studies suggests even lower than 2-3mg may be more effective.

Is this thread for real? I'm a fan of DNP, but not for longevity. I haven't used it in a while but have plenty......Please NO one PM me for sources.

Very real.
 

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One time I went on a date with someone around 2011 and I had to suggest like 4 different restaurants before there was something on the menu she could eat. She was on the HCG diet and basically her whole life revolved around that diet. She couldn't drink alcohol either.


i know a number of girls who are literally starving themselves in order to try to lose weight. this will, of course, cause them to lose what little muscle they have, and keep a lot of the fat.

they will lose weight of course, but it won't be the kind they want to lose.. they will end up loose and flabby-looking. seen it too many times.


if only they knew about DNP.
 

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One time I went on a date with someone around 2011 and I had to suggest like 4 different restaurants before there was something on the menu she could eat. She was on the HCG diet and basically her whole life revolved around that diet. She couldn't drink alcohol either.
She sounds like a whole lot of fun!
 

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Thank you for the articles. Ive found that one to two 250mg capsules are optimal for health without interfering much with performance and appearance. A minimal amount is needed in your system for the health benefits, which I think could be doubly important for gear users. Especially when it comes to the neuroprotective effects, prevention of atherosclerosis, lowers fasting BG, protects internal organs, and can reduce red blood cells to a degree. It helps maintain insulin sensitivity which in the long run will aid in building muscle as long as the dose is kept low, the anabolics will override much of the mTor effects of dnp. Although at my age, I'm more interested in maintaining, longevity and health. But either way, I think its a worthwhile measure, and even at just 250mg once a week, it leaves enough in your system to give you the health benefits all week without hampering your cycle. I think being on gear, its more risky not to be on DNP.

I’m actually wondering what an even lower dose long term would do for the positive cognitive effects amongst all the others.

50-100mg daily maybe. DNP is very strong and as BBers we take higher doses of everything that’s needed except nolva and a few Other random compounds.

@Butters-What dose does a 70 yo man take of DNP?

back to the dosing my main side effect I fear most, having had it before, is the possibility of a rogue cell going malignant and cancerous. It sometimes only takes a little amount of a carcinogenic compound to cause cancer cells to form or “mutate from normal healthy cells”
 

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I’m actually wondering what an even lower dose long term would do for the positive cognitive effects amongst all the others.

50-100mg daily maybe. DNP is very strong and as BBers we take higher doses of everything that’s needed except nolva and a few Other random compounds.

@Butters-What dose does a 70 yo man take of DNP?

back to the dosing my main side effect I fear most, having had it before, is the possibility of a rogue cell going malignant and cancerous. It sometimes only takes a little amount of a carcinogenic compound to cause cancer cells to form or “mutate from normal healthy cells”


He takes 250mg a day
 

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I’m actually wondering what an even lower dose long term would do for the positive cognitive effects amongst all the others.

50-100mg daily maybe. DNP is very strong and as BBers we take higher doses of everything that’s needed except nolva and a few Other random compounds.

@Butters-What dose does a 70 yo man take of DNP?

back to the dosing my main side effect I fear most, having had it before, is the possibility of a rogue cell going malignant and cancerous. It sometimes only takes a little amount of a carcinogenic compound to cause cancer cells to form or “mutate from normal healthy cells”

Well, from everything that I've read, they have yet to prove DNP is carcinogenic. I think one of the biggest problems with bodybuilding and health, especially when it comes to precancerous cells, is that bodybuilders spend a majority of the time in a fed state, and it would be wise to allow some periods of fasting or at least in a good diet phase somewhat regularly for autophagy to break shit down and do some housecleaning. If anything, i would think that DNP would be beneficial in this aspect by decreasing calories absorbed and making it easier to be in a catabolic state periodically to allow for autophagy.

But like was stated earlier, as little as 3 grams per day is beneficial.
 

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when the second largest concern besides death isn't even mentioned in a 5 page thread about long term use of a compound its probably a good thing someone doesnt know what theyre talking about then





do we know what exactly is meant by 'long-term' use though?
 

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Another idiot?

Cataracts only occurred in women, and avoiding them is as easy as taking 2 or 3 grams of vitamin C a day.
 

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Another idiot?

Cataracts only occurred in women, and avoiding them is as easy as taking 2 or 3 grams of vitamin C a day.



i dont think it's fair to call him an idiot.


it's important to recognize that cataracts are by no means an uncommon occurrence - even in people who have never touched DNP.

both of my parents had them, both sets of my grandparents had them.

i will most definitely have them, DNP use or not.
 

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you don't really know what you're talking about
Another idiot?

Cataracts only occurred in women, and avoiding them is as easy as taking 2 or 3 grams of vitamin C a day.
Here is fucking a great example of two morons that have read an article or two on the internet and are now experts on a subject.
I will ASSURE you that my ABUSE of DNP in my 30's led to the formation of my cataracts.
I had 4 different Ophthalmologists look at my cataracts and everyone of them said they had NEVER seen cataracts that looked like mine.
I had to get approved by a retinal specialist before my surgery because I was very myopic and there is a small risk of getting a retinal detachment after cataract surgery. When he looked at my cataracts he flat out asked me if I had ever taken DNP. I was floored. I couldn't believe he even knew about DNP.
After my surgery which was done by an Ophthalmologist that had done ten of thousands of surgeries before mine stated that he had NEVER seen cataracts that looked like mine after they were removed.
I was 41 years old when they were removed. It is almost unheard of to have cataract surgery at that age unless you have traumatic cataracts, which I didnt have.
After all of that I still use, but dont abuse DNP to this day. It is by far the greatest fat burner ever. It's magic in a pill.
 

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Here is fucking a great example of two morons that have read an article or two on the internet and are now experts on a subject.
I will ASSURE you that my ABUSE of DNP in my 30's led to the formation of my cataracts.
I had 4 different Ophthalmologists look at my cataracts and everyone of them said they had NEVER seen cataracts that looked like mine.
I had to get approved by a retinal specialist before my surgery because I was very myopic and there is a small risk of getting a retinal detachment after cataract surgery. When he looked at my cataracts he flat out asked me if I had ever taken DNP. I was floored. I couldn't believe he even knew about DNP.
After my surgery which was done by an Ophthalmologist that had done ten of thousands of surgeries before mine stated that he had NEVER seen cataracts that looked like mine after they were removed.
I was 41 years old when they were removed. It is almost unheard of to have cataract surgery at that age unless you have traumatic cataracts, which I didnt have.
After all of that I still use, but dont abuse DNP to this day. It is by far the greatest fat burner ever. It's magic in a pill.


To be clear, my post was referring to his assertion that it was a 'sure fire' way to get cataracts
 

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To be clear, my post was referring to his assertion that it was a 'sure fire' way to get cataracts
Point noted. It's far from a surefire way to get cataracts. I feel like the odds of getting them are very slim. As noted, I was an abuser of DNP. Probably close to as bad as Little Slice was.
Just wanted to make a point that it IS possible to get them from DNP use. I am proof positive.
 

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