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does it upset you when people.....

Honestly, shit like this USED to bother me..... but sometimes you try to help and guide people but they seem to know everything already..... so fuck em'.... when his wee wee isn't working anymore have him go cry somewhere else
 
I'm 47 and been on HRT fir two years never done a cycle and my test was at a 95, just felt like crap but feel like a new man ever since I started got on here to learn and have learned a lot from you guys just reading but I'm about to do my second cycle for cut before I go on vacation his summer and really feel like I have the right knowledge to keep from hurting myself, long story short just a thank you.


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There's a 17 year old kid at my Gym. all juiced up and can't get it up without viagra, he's happy so if he's happy what's the issue its his life..I told him the side affects. I can't control people and the more I try to control people, is when I get issues we all can't live forever s let them live like a beast
 
If you were a real friend you would tell him to add in some Tren.
 
The problem is that if you don't help these people and something goes wrong then it will be another black eye to the lifestyle of bodybuilding.
Pass on good info and advice and HBO, Help a Brother Out.
 
i hear you about pct. My back and shoulders are riddled with acne from pct that I did about 12 weeks ago


Same thing happened to me when I went through pct. However I recovered well. Months after I stopped my natural test levels went back to where they were before I started in the 690s. I'm sure eventually that won't be the case.

Some people just don't weigh the risk and reward. They don't care and there is nothing you can do to change that. They have to learn the hard way. I learned the hard way a lot in life. Maybe not with aas but with a lot of other things in life. No matter how many people tried to guide me I didn't learn until I faced the consequences. Before I started my first cycle I spent countless hours reading about it and then asked questions as well. 10 years ago I probably wouldn't have done that. If he is a friend I would certainly try to guide him but just don't feel guilty or upset when he doesn't listen. At least you can say that you tried and I told you so. And yes some of the questions that get asked here do bother me a bit. Not because they are asking for help but because the question they are asking is either common sense or easily found by doing a bit of research. Not one of us here was born with ultimate knowledge on the subject and some of the questions come with multiple answers so somebody's personal experience is helpful but come on, do some foot work and listen to the more experienced.
 
I wish I had stayed on from the beginning. PCT always did a number on me, and is just a waste of money IMO.


Agreed, once you make the decision to use aas pct is just a waste of time and money.

Op, if the kid is your friend give him your advice and if he chooses to not listen don't let it get to you. He's an adult and he's going to do what he wants.
 
I used to try to help lazy people who inject drugs in their body without knowing anything about them. After about 98 percent of them did what they wanted anyways I just sold them the shit and told them to google it.
 
There is so much information today at your fingertips. If you do not due your own due diligence then your foolish.
 
Forums have been great for steering people in the right direction for the most part, but they have also created silly "rules" that you HAVE to follow, which is complete bullshit. Like you HAVE to do 500mg test e first cycle, HAVE to do nolvadex/clomid exactly 14 days post injection, etc. Absolutely no tren first cycle. Only oral to consider first cycle is dbol, etc. So many silly rules. Everyone is different and if they have enough knowledge, can do what they think it right for THEM.

I agree with your statement, i would only hope that those who helped build these "rules", supported these rules and still preach them do it out of concern for the person trying to get in the game. Not everyone has the same opinion on what a first cycle should look like, but I would venture to bet if you said 4 weeks of dbol, 10-12 weeks of test 500, 2 more weeks of nova/clomid... most wouldnt be too concerned.
 
Hey I'm looking to start a cycle I'm a beginner. 27 years old been working out for a while and feel this could help give me the boot I need to go to another level I'm just not sure how to go about starting or even how to get products.


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Hey he'll fuck up and then he'll learn. I read all I could for a year before I did any cycle and people just tell you to bump shit up. I did one cycle that I ended up fucking hating so bad that I got a coach afterward...one of the best decision I have ever made in my life.
 
It's human nature to learn by doing and making mistakes. If you are his friend give him some advice but don't get too invested in it. He will eventually learn the hard way.
 
Majority of people who take steroids do not know what there doing. Its a quick solution. I want muscles, take steroids. That's what it comes down to. People who don't even look like there on are usually on.

Its just a situation I shake my head at. You can preach, teach, lecture. It takes a special kind of person to research study and master something. That is with anything in life.

If I do anything its always 100 percent, and I consume myself with it.
 
Forums have been great for steering people in the right direction for the most part, but they have also created silly "rules" that you HAVE to follow, which is complete bullshit. Like you HAVE to do 500mg test e first cycle, HAVE to do nolvadex/clomid exactly 14 days post injection, etc. Absolutely no tren first cycle. Only oral to consider first cycle is dbol, etc. So many silly rules. Everyone is different and if they have enough knowledge, can do what they think it right for THEM.
[lang=es]agree, everyone is different and not in the same circunstances[/lang]
 
Imo I would let him know. Maybe not tell him what to do out right. But find a good article on the risks exp at his age a d then just say. "I'm not gonna tell you what to do with your body. It seems like you already made up your mind. But I am asking you to just read this." No matter what people will do what ever they want. We should try to tell them hkw to live there life. As we wouldn't listen to the same people telling us how to live ours. But we can and should always inform
 

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