Dosages for advanced

[The big guy]

What dosages would be proper for the advanced trainer, who has a lot of AS experience and is not getting the results from say 750mgs to 1gm a week any more and orals, 50mgs of d-bol as an example. 6'5" and 285lbs 11% bf. Opinions...

 

[Big A]

Add insulin and GH.

 

[healthfreak79]

Whats your last cycle look like? How much do you use

 

[BigWilly]

agree with BigA...

maybe bump your dose up very slightly but add GH/slin...maybe IGF.
BW

 

[MikeS]

I know this sounds crass, but if youre advanced-you shouldnt need to ask.
What Im saying is that we are here for help and its cool to ask that question;
But its kinda contradictory, ya know?

 

[The big guy]

Hey thats cool, its just that I wanted some input on it, I always heistated to use insulin, I always considered it dangerous and as far as gh, I've used it a ton of times and did not see a big difference, it always seemed that AS always was what worked the best. I been cycling for a little over 20 yrs I'm 42 and started at 21.

 

[xcelbeyond]

, it always seemed that ASS always was what worked the best.

ASS is good no matter what your age!

 

[Ashop]

Add insulin and GH.

YES...that would be next if you have hit plateau..IGF-1 also.

 

[The big guy]

ASS is good no matter what your age!

YES...that would be next if you have hit plateau..IGF-1 also.

What about dosages, insulin, igf, gh, when I use gh I do 4.5 iu 4 days on and two off, but what about the igf, and insulin..

 

[Fastandfurious]

Try to increase your protein intake 10% .
Increase injectable dosage by 10% and if you haven't already,try tren for a long,low dose cycle like 16 weeks.
Increasing orals is the last resort in concerns to health.

 

[b-boy]

eat more! whenever i thought that gains weren't going as good as i would have liked it was because i wasn't eating enought!!! if your say 220 and gained 15 pounds your last cycle well you have to eat even more to maintain 235 lbs than you did to maintain 220, most people under eat! and then complain about gains... not saying thats the case for you but you might wanna check and make sure the diets up to par first, before adding other compounds, cause if your undereating no exotic compound is going to fix that!

just my two cents

 

[Armageddon]

I know this sounds crass, but if youre advanced-you shouldnt need to ask.
What Im saying is that we are here for help and its cool to ask that question;
But its kinda contradictory, ya know?

I have to agree here on this one with Mike S. To many things sound odd in these statements. Registers this past dec. Asks about sources for insulin and GH. MOst everyone knows that insulin is over th counter in almost all the states, but not everyone. Never said it was illegal where he's at. Asking for dosing on GH but says he's used it alot. Has over 20yrs experience in the game but needs help for someone that is advance. Really makes me WONDER about this a bit?

 

[The big guy]

I have to agree here on this one with Mike S. To many things sound odd in these statements. Registers this past dec. Asks about sources for insulin and GH. MOst everyone knows that insulin is over th counter in almost all the states, but not everyone. Never said it was illegal where he's at. Asking for dosing on GH but says he's used it alot. Has over 20yrs experience in the game but needs help for someone that is advance. Really makes me WONDER about this a bit?

All I ever used was AS, and my gains have slowed when on, just looking for some input why, because always was real receptive to AS and never had a problem with gains, just seems lately I don't get the gains I used to, if that sounds fishy to ya oh well. As far as Gh goes I said the doses I've used 4.5 iu's 4 days on and 2 off, and it did'nt seem to make a whole lot of difference and I used it for six months a time, at probably 10 times,and all I think it did was fuck my Tyhroid function so I heistate to fuck with shit as my overall health is my concern, as for as sources go it basically was for price (cheap) better than the street. As far as join date I was reffered to this board by Tough old man. I never had to use much of any thing else besides AS to get great gains and I have been 294lbs at 6'5" and 6%bf just using AS and a good diet.

 

[cmwings]

All I ever used was ASS, and my gains have slowed when on, just looking for some input why, because always was real receptive to ASS and never had a problem with gains, just seems lately I don't get the gains I used to, if that sounds fishy to ya oh well. As far as Gh goes I said the doses I've used 4.5 iu's 4 days on and 2 off, and it did'nt seem to make a whole lot of difference and I used it for six months a time, at probably 10 times,and all I think it did was fuck my Tyhroid function so I heistate to fcuk with shit as my overall health is my concern, as for as sources go it basically was for price (cheap) better than the street. As far as join date I was reffered to this board by Tough old man. I never had to use much of any thing else besides ASS to get great gains and I have been 294lbs at 6'5" and 6%bf just using ASS and a good diet.

Maybe you are ASS-ing the wrong questions.
CM

 

[The big guy]

eat more! whenever i thought that gains weren't going as good as i would have liked it was because i wasn't eating enought!!! if your say 220 and gained 15 pounds your last cycle well you have to eat even more to maintain 235 lbs than you did to maintain 220, most people under eat! and then complain about gains... not saying thats the case for you but you might wanna check and make sure the diets up to par first, before adding other compounds, cause if your undereating no exotic compound is going to fix that!

just my two cents

Yea ya know I don't think my diet has been as good as it could be, actually I know it could be better, thanks I will overhaul my diet and see what happens, gonna bump up protien, and I am 42 now so my body is definatly changing, thanks for 2 cnts.......

 

[Armageddon]

You say your 6'5" 285 @ 11% but you've been or are 294 @ 6%. Seems to me that if you've got to that point before that you seem to know what your doing so I just don't understand the dosing question.
It dose sound fishy as you came straight out and asked for a link for insulin and GH. Not right thing to do. And being around her as long as I have I have a responsibility to the board to help keep it's integrity and question someone when they post like that. IT sounds funny to the vets of this board.
There is no magic solution or dose and if you've got in that shape before you can do it again.

 

[The big guy]

Try to increase your protein intake 10% .
Increase injectable dosage by 10% and if you haven't already,try tren for a long,low dose cycle like 16 weeks.
Increasing orals is the last resort in concerns to health.

eat more! whenever i thought that gains weren't going as good as i would have liked it was because i wasn't eating enought!!! if your say 220 and gained 15 pounds your last cycle well you have to eat even more to maintain 235 lbs than you did to maintain 220, most people under eat! and then complain about gains... not saying thats the case for you but you might wanna check and make sure the diets up to par first, before adding other compounds, cause if your undereating no exotic compound is going to fix that!

just my two cents

Damn just wanted a few opinions and get a bunch of shit, but its cool, thanks to Fast and furious and B-boy, and been trying to regulate my thyroid over the past 18 months or so maybe thats why I can not drop th BF% as low as I want and I'll bump dosage by 10 or 20% and overhaul diet to suit the lack of metabolism due to thyroid..And thanks XCELBEYOND..

 

[terryd5150]

Hey the big guy...

I prefer high doses of ASS myself. Anyone well advanced with ASS will tell you it is much better in high doses!

 

[JustWannaBeHuge]

I prefer high doses of ASS myself. Anyone well advanced with ASS will tell you it is much better in high doses!

I prefer to get all different types of ASS myself. Everything from the local, to the very exotic. It has always done me good and seems to relax me after I'm done...i always feel the need for a sandwich and a nap though when I am done with the ASS.


JW

 

[ncsports]

i think it is a legit question for those questioning him.

although we all have a responsibility to be on the lookout for possible trouble as has been pointed out that a new person asking for source type info is a red flag

BUT...just because someone is an advanced trainee does not mean they are an advanced drug user and know which drugs to take them beyond what they have always used.

there are plenty of pretty advanced trainers in the gym who dont know much other than test, deca, dbol.