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We all are here cause we want to be better then the average guy when it comes to size but at what cost...We ,by nature,push the envelope and i am sure we would like to think we know what we are doing and perhaps we do but the problem with Steroids is you DON"T DROP DEAD in seconds if you take too much...it is slow process of system failures and the life style does and willcatch up to us...am i guilty of this "YES" and i realize it and i guess i am an idiot cause i know if i touch the flame it will hurt and burn but i keep going back cause it hurts a little less so i stay there a lil longer...at some point the "fire will consume me"...

We need to get back to healthier bb'ing shows...force these guys to look better not bigger....enough is enough...they have isolated themselves from the following they had 15 years ago and just the bizzare and freakish and faint at heart stay to watch this train wreck in the making...
 
AMEN

AMEN
Reading this on this board is a breath of fresh air
I couldn't agree with you more.
 
slabsofabs said:
AMEN
Reading this on this board is a breath of fresh air
I couldn't agree with you more.

I guess by writing this i hope i will take my own advice and smarten up...and maybe just maybe someone else reading this will learn before it is too late..usually by the tiem we have a problem it is too late and have to pay the price ...I do get blood work done 2-4 times a year and it has been always good and "normal"...and i hope if it is not i can do soemthing about it...I HOPE !! Ask yourself why you are doing it in the first place and when you get past i want to be bigger...stronger..and better then everyone else or better within myself you will find the problem lies deeper within you and it is a a need to hide some short coming we all fel ..it will be different for everyone but we all feel like we need to be bigger,stronger and faster cause we are running from a feeling we do not like..think think think...!!!
 
I agree 100% but the problem is: how can we revert back to 'heathier' bodybuilding when the bar has already been set with the guys on stage these days rather than the ones in the 70's.
You cant go back to the physiques of the 70's and 80's when you have the means to look like the cometitors of the 90's and 00's.
Say if one Olympia competitor did it the healthy way and ended up looking like Franco Columbo which is awesome, but another Olympia competitor used modern methods and looked like Marcus Ruhl with is equally impressive to me but to the judges the harder look and greater defenition would win every time.
Its just a matter of where you set the bar, and any serious competitor would be at a serious disadvantage today if they didnt employ all of todays methods. All sports evolves by pushing the envelope to the extreme and bodybuilding is no exception, sure its very unhealthy but thats the sacrifice they choose to make.
Youll never see me waking out on stage for a bodybuiling show, one becouse im a powerlifter but also beocuse im simply not willing to make that sacrifice.
And yeah ill admit it, bodybuiliding does take a greater bodily sacrifice than powerlifting...which is partially why I choose the latter.
 
i agree, todays BBr is seriously in health jeopardy
i hope i take this advice too
i mean, yea HRT is ok as far as we kno, but the shit we take and doses and the stuff we eat, were as unnatural as can be
and even natural BBrs arent natural, no human body is made to drop to 3% bodyfat, and this and that, theres nothing natural abt what we do, BBr or powerlifting
i just made a totaly retarded rant
so now i will excuse myself
frk
 
bottem line is, it's not healthy to be 300 pounds even if you;'re only 10% BF. But, my quality of life is wonderfull. I enjoy being a freak. it's who I am. it's my identity. I would have to change everything about myself for it to be any different. Of course, there are many many things we can do to improve our health in spite of the damage we do to ourselves by being massive. many guys neglect to consider their health in other areas like eating enough veggies, staying limber, staying fit year round as far as mobility and cardio health, anti-oxidents etc etc.

Well, we're still better off being roid freaks than being McAmericans.

squatter
 
You can live a long healthy life as a smaller, weaker person, or you can live a possibly shorter life as a big, strong, confident person. It's just a matter of what's important to each individual.
 
well

Its just like you said..Over time sure Id say all the juice could and does take a toll on us. Some much more then others...
But to go along with what Squatter says every other aspect we take much better care of our bodies the most normall people.

I think we are sometimes to quik to point rite at the roids if not feeling well
or something happens to go wrong..all the same things happen to normall people all the time for no reason,.wasnt the roids that did it to them.
I think we need to be smart yes, and listen to the warning signs
and its then you decide semi big and healthy?? or fuggit Im getting huge no matter what the cost.

BUT please for god sakes dont take coke and roids EVER!
that seems to be a deathwish AND DONT MIX THEM, things like that
is what give the roids a bad name. If your gonna juice Stay on the juice only Imo... No drugs or ciggarettes no getting black out drunk and smashing heads
(Bn you listenin to that last one ;) J/k) Just be SMART and take care of yourself And I think the health risks are WAYY overrated.
 
rAJJIN said:
Its just like you said..Over time sure Id say all the juice could and does take a toll on us. Some much more then others...
But to go along with what Squatter says every other aspect we take much better care of our bodies the most normall people.

I think we are sometimes to quik to point rite at the roids if not feeling well
or something happens to go wrong..all the same things happen to normall people all the time for no reason,.wasnt the roids that did it to them.
I think we need to be smart yes, and listen to the warning signs
and its then you decide semi big and healthy?? or fuggit Im getting huge no matter what the cost.

BUT please for god sakes dont take coke and roids EVER!
that seems to be a deathwish AND DONT MIX THEM, things like that
is what give the roids a bad name. If your gonna juice Stay on the juice only Imo... No drugs or ciggarettes no getting black out drunk and smashing heads
(Bn you listenin to that last one ;) J/k) Just be SMART and take care of yourself And I think the health risks are WAYY overrated.


Couldn't have said it any better. 100% dead on.



Maverick
 
wow rajj good post man
i concur(im tryn to be all doctor like)
frk
 
Columbo and Arnold?

Didnt both of them juice back in the day? I find it hard to believe they were all NATURAL! :rolleyes:
 
You know maybe I am rationalizing my choices, but we all do things that are not necessarily healthy to varying degrees. Wheter it be smoking, drinking, eating unhealthy food, rec drugs, extreme sports, riding a motorcycle, not going to doctor regularly, not taking our cholesterol drugs when we should be, and the list goes on. I would argue many choices other people make are just as potentially harmful as some of the choices we make, it is just that right now our lifestyle and drugs that can go along with it are not acceptable by most of the public.

If we decide to lead this lifestyle, then I think you need to try to be responsible and educated in your approach. And, as was mentioned above, really lead the lifestyle and don't mix in rec drugs and other stupid stuff. This is my approach and I can sleep at night and look my wife in the eye and tell her I am being safe. Everybody has their own comfort level. I am not shooting for 300lbs ripped, and I am a patient man so I can take my time. Others may decide that all-out growth at any cost works for them, which is fine as long as they know the risks.

I am rambling now, but next time you speed in your car, run a red light, feel sleepy at the wheel, ask yourself if juice is that dangerous. 44,000 people die each year in car wrecks, 10-20,000 from the flu, 20,000 from AIDS. Maybe we should all just sit on the couch and nibble on rice cakes - we might live longer. Ok, I'll stop now before I start really making no sense.
 

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