Estrogen Solubilizer= ?

[sarcoplasm]

Have the contents/chemical of the estro solubilizer ever been revealed?
Sarcoplasm

 

[sarcoplasm]

Anyone?

 

[ziinus]

sodium tert butoxide....

 

[sarcoplasm]

sodium tert butoxide....

I have heard that this was what it is, but I have heard it was something else. Do you have any links on this to confirm? Thank you for the response. Any other input would be greatly appreciated. Thank You

 

[ziinus]

No sry, i've just heard that :s but i'll make a research
But a guys on another forum said he had the kit tested, and the oestrogen solubilizer was found to be sodium tert butoxide

 

[sarcoplasm]

No sry, i've just heard that :s but i'll make a research
But a guys on another forum said he had the kit tested, and the oestrogen solubilizer was found to be sodium tert butoxide

Thanks for the info.

 

[Ashop]

sodium tert butoxide....

Ive been told its sodium hydroxide.

 

[chess315]

I really want to know what the esrogen solubizer is also not the one that makes suspension but the one that makes prop

 

[sarcoplasm]

Ive been told its sodium hydroxide.

Is it possible that they are both in the same family and that both solubilize estrogen? I have seen a few thread and posts on various boards that state that it is sodium tert butoxide. I'm surprised this is such a well kept secret.

 

[chess315]

I have made prop from syno but didnt know what the solubilizer was my research leads me to think the lye make test base and the sodium tert makes prop but its not that simple some say its impossible for the sodium tert to not strip off the prop ester but you could hear anything when it comes to steroids that being said I have seen the estrogen solubilizer for sale at titan medical and fina fast but I have no personal experience with either company its obvious your planning on converting syno so when you find the best way now that kits are illegal let us know thanx

 

[Massive G]

Sodium hydroxide reoved the estradiol benzoate and Propionate esters leaving you with test no ester. It also was a lot of work rinsing drying etc a lot of room for erroer and leaving residual estrogen.
Eagle Research came up with the soluabilizer and it acutally bound all the estrogen and left Test prop behind. They haven't been in business for sometime and as far as I know the only way for these kit companies to get the same thing was have the substance id'd from one of the ER kits. And no I don't know what it is or was either.

 

[sarcoplasm]

Sodium hydroxide reoved the estradiol benzoate and Propionate esters leaving you with test no ester. It also was a lot of work rinsing drying etc a lot of room for erroer and leaving residual estrogen.
Eagle Research came up with the soluabilizer and it acutally bound all the estrogen and left Test prop behind. They haven't been in business for sometime and as far as I know the only way for these kit companies to get the same thing was have the substance id'd from one of the ER kits. And no I don't know what it is or was either.

If YOU don't know what it is that I'm sure that very few people do. I Perhaps it is sodium tert butoxide. Does anyone know about this commpound? Thanks

 

[Ashop]

Trust this. I hope he doenst mind but i used quote by mod Fitter X:

'To the best of my knowledge and research have turned up "tert" is one of the early methods used. It was used until the discovery that time involved in the sodium hydroxide bath would do both functions. All the new kits sell sodium hydroxide. "tert" will leave crystalized estrodol in the solution. Sodium hydroxide will actually break the estro out 99.5% estro free.'

 

[Ashop]

Again Fitter X:

Sodium hydroxide - estrogen solubilzer, and ester remover.
For removing estrogen only, add sodium hydroxide to solution of methanol, prop and estradiol, let set for 1 hour no more no less then begining rinsing process.
To create test base (TNE) allow solution to set 24 hrs. Then begin rinsing process.

 

[thomascrown]

bump... it this info confirmed? So the NaOH just for 1hr will yield the prop and no estradiol? i've tried looking for the solubilizer everywere and can't find it. I tried ti*** m** around august just to find later that they had been busted.... and lost the money.

 

[scott123456789]

Syno Estrobilizer

I question all the mentioned chemicals and if they are effective. I have tried : straight Syno (same method as Fina), Syno with the Tert B and the Syno with the Sodium Hydroxide left in for One hour exactly. I got the best results from Unconverted Syno. If I used to much (100mg/ml) EOD I got small painful lumps under my nipples which went away after a 3-4 months with no syno use. I found that if I take 40mg/ml EOD of unconverrted syno I got some of the benefits without the nipple problem. The reason I use this was to counteract the Fina side effects. IF you take 40mg/ml EOD Syno alone unconverted I don't think I would get good results but would not have bad sides. My rational is simply to counteract the Fina sides. I found that after a few years of Fina (I cycle), my body does not react the same and I need more Fina for the same results.

 

[thomascrown]

to get the sdium tert butoxide heres the site **broken link removed** now ive read elsewere its the one that actually keeps the propionate but i cant find how much is necessary anywere... maybe someone can input.

 

[W8killa]

You will never remove all the estrogen. It has been exhausted. The problem is that even a few micrograms/mL will give you estrogen sides. The science doesnt make any sense either. Your recovery would be so low.

 

[scott123456789]

I read that the scientist last named "Arnald " said the Tert Butoxide didn't make any sense. I even question the Sodium Hydroxide method. Taking straight syno in small doses 40 mg/ml EOD gave no sides but helped offset the Tren sides. At doses of 100mg/ml EOD or ED you will slowy devope hard spots that are painfull under your nipples. In may case they gradualy disappeared in 3 months. No surgery needed etc. I was scared for a while thought.

 

[thomascrown]

ok just like ALin quoted... basskiller said on another board that NaOH at 150mg will strip the estradiol but not the tp, no more no less. If more is used then the tp ester is gone, if less is used i imagine it leaves the estradiol... i think his the most reliable in the topic... i will try this.