Estrogen?

[ridge11]

Does estrogen increase in response to an increase in total testosterone or free testosterone?

 

[ridge11]

?

 

[617ricky]

What conclusion are you trying to come to with the question? And what's the real distinction between total vs. free test? As total test goes up, free test will obviously go up with it, no? And as test levels go up, there's more test that's able to be converted to estrogen..

 

[ridge11]

My total test is in the middle of normal range and my free test is above natural levels. I had thought this is optimal for minimizing side effects while benefitting from supraphysiological free testosterone. But i have been getting gyno and want to know if this is from the simple fact that there is exogenous testosterone present, or if its from the high free test?

 

[xxsuprman22xx]

are you supplementing with anything?

 

[ridge11]

are you supplementing with anything?

Multi V, ZMA, Green T, ALA, and Insulin 1 or 2x/week pwo 10iu(probably why free is so high in relation to total)

 

[Macro]

Multi V, ZMA, Green T, ALA, and Insulin 1 or 2x/week pwo 10iu(probably why free is so high in relation to total)

insulin is a lactogen and aggravator/inducer of gynecomastia (direct actor), so that may a factor.

ALA does not increase insulin sensitivity (R-ALA does), use of this with insulin might be aggravating. Green tea can, dose dependant, decrease DHT conversion, this also might a factor (those dose would have to be fairly high).

 

[ridge11]

Thanks Macro. Ill cut it all out except for my multi v and see how that goes. Im gonna cut down on the booze too. That should help.

 

[smc252]

Thanks Macro. Ill cut it all out except for my multi v and see how that goes. Im gonna cut down on the booze too. That should help.

That alone will help. 2% of your total test should be free, and e2 should be in range. Labwork makes this shit way easier.

 

[Macro]

Im gonna cut down on the booze too. That should help.

that would be something to mention, alcohol blunts insulin sensitivity and increases aromatase.