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Expelled from the gym because of PED's

Come to the USA, Brotha!
Just say you’re transitioning into a woman and Uncle Sam will give you tree testosterone and a pack a needles at the door. 😀

I’m sorry the press made an example of you for their own notoriety. Ever since we were children they gave us Superhero toys and Superhero movies with our role models being juiced to the gills. I remember reading an interview as a youth with Christofer Reeves, my Superman role model as a kid. He said he put 45Lbs of pure muscle on training for the role by working out and drinking protein shakes. Any of you guys put 45Lbs of pure muscle on naturally in 6 months? This was in the 1970’s. Easy, peasy, right? No way was there dbol in those shakes. 🤔
 
That’s crazy that he just threw you out, but I guess with the story in the media he had no other choice looking at how things are in Norway.

Over here in The Netherlands it’s not a big deal. In my gym I talk with the gym owner about usage. He’s in his late 60’s and been around for decades and I always enjoy his stories from back in the day.
But they do tend to bust bigger labs from time to time over here. 2 years ago they busted a big one, jail time for a few people but only a few months.
Then if you look at Belgium… they come in the gym randomly and test everyone! Even at bodybuilding shows they can come in and test the athletes and people who are visiting. I had a coach from Belgium 5-6 years ago who could not talk about gear over text or anything because there is a big chance messages are being read by the authorities and he could lose everything. Crazy how it differs per country.
 
What is there to gain from talking about it with others though, especially IRL.

Unless you're peddling diet/training protocols, supplement brands or accessory clothing under the guise of being a natty, it's not like you're scamming or defrauding anyone.

I think talking about it just does more harm than good.
 
Hi guys! What is the culture in your country like regarding PED's?
I have always been open and honest on my social media when it comes to drugs, even though it is illegal for personal use here in Norway. I don't want to give my followers false expectations, and try and create less taboo around it, as there are clearly many who use it and fake nattys.
Long story short - the owner of the gym I worked out at always knew I use, it's very visible but never a problem because I behave myself and don't talk about it in the gym.
But, just over 3 months ago, a journalist wanted to make a big news story about why I am allowed to train at the gym, when I use and am honest about steroids etc.
So then the training centers saw no other solution than to expel me. Was pressured by a journalist, so would have been bad regardless of which side. I personally don't care about it, it's fine. It became a big article for all of Norway to see, but it's just noise and doesn't take anything personally.

Just curious what it's like to be honest and use steroids in other countries? Do people care? Can you be expelled from gyms?
I also lost my job as a security guard because of what came out in the media (but got a new job now)
Tell me if anyone else has been kicked out of the gym because of steroids or have stories about it.
Dude, this story is crazy! I've never heard anything like it. Most of the gyms I've trained at for the last 40 yrs, it was the owners or trainers selling the gear. But either way, if it's a halfway decent gym half the dudes are on gear. Sorry you had to lose your job. Here the security firms advertise in the gyms looking for muscle heads. I trained at Gold's in Venice for 10 yrs and working security was probably one of the top professions for the younger guys. The takeaway for me is.....never talk to reporters! Wow, I love your country, one of my all time favorite trips. Your country is so open and non judgmental in so many ways, at least that was my experience. And cheers to you for being honest and true to yourself. I live the same way and happy to share my workout journey with anyone who's interested. (I live in SoCal)
 
Its a shame how it is in the scandinavian countries, but what can we as bodybuilders do? except for acting like an upstanding, well functioning human.

Theres still people getting stopped, harrased and raided by cops because they look like they juice, its ridiculous. They are making criminals of people that just want to go to the gym and improve themselves.

They all think steroids cause aggression, irratic behaviour, apathy, violence and that you're a lazy cheater that tries to get away from hard work and discipline. Most people think you run a 12 week cycle and blow up to be ronnie coleman.

If you listen to some of the antidoping speakers, they even claim that the reason that steroids became illegal for personal use back in 2013 is because they believe it was one of the contributors that made anders behring breivik, the terrorist that executed a massmurder of over 60 people in 2011 in norway, capable to execute such a horrible act. So you can tell how misinformed and deluded these people are when it comes to steroids and PEDs in general.


Dont get me started on the health sector and how they treat steroid users. They usually blame every issue you have on your steroid use and leave you hanging. You try to explain to them that you are focusing on harm reduction through getting checkups and bloodwork, but they look at that as supporting the "abuse/addiction" so they dont do much outside of the yearly checkup you are privileged to once a year.



Its ridiculous.
Fear is steroids for ignorance
 

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