55yo joint pain keeping me from the gym

[chidoman]

I have found capsaicin cream can help when things get a little more achy then i like.

^^^This
I slobber that cream all over my joints and come out on the gym floor looking more or less like Robocop, padded up with elbow, knees and wrist wraps. Cream does help in keeping the area warm thus increasing blood flow. The stench from the cream tho has become my new Old Spice...

 

[curcumin]

Thanks guys. I know my issue is arthritis, and it's killing my shoulders and knees. Lower back ain't the greatest, but it is the one thing I can tolerate so far. Elbows fortunately not an issue. Doesn't matter if I lift heavy low reps, or light higher reps, it's going to bring the pain. For me it actually seems 5x5 heavier is better than lower weights higher reps, as it just seems the less reps overall equals less pain. As far as warming up, I always run minimum one mile before lifting, and pyramid my reps/ weights up, so I take plenty of time to get myself up to speed before doing anything heavy.

I have tried BPC and TB500 without much help, though I should add it did help with issues in my 40s but not making a dent in my 50s. I did read a post in here from a guy saying he got amazing results from them, but running 5x or higher the typical dose of 250mcgs. Guess that will be my next shot at help.

As of right now just not wanting to go back to anything anabolics related. I'd rather keep upping my HGH dosage to see if that helps at all. I've been around the 2-3iu dose for over a decade now, and I've always felt amazing on it. It's only this past year or so that I'm hitting this brick wall of pain, and the weird difference of always feeling like a 30 year old tops, to feeling exactly my age all at once.

upping your GH could possibly have the opposite effect for you that you're hoping. I was in a similar spot that you were in and it wasn't until I DROPPED growth that I started feeling better. Joint pain is literally listed as a side effect of GH usage. Its great if you are feeling good but if you aren't running really good blood sugar numbers then its just a super inflammatory drug. I also got my metabolic conditioning in shape (berberine and then finally introduced retatrutide), ended up dropping 10 pounds in about a month (mostly water weight I was still eating at a small surplus) and now my inflammation is very low and my joints feel much better. I'm 41 and have been training since before I was a teenager so I know how you feel lol

 

[gauge22-v2]

Have you had shoulders done? Synvisc?

I get a Monovisc shot once or twice a year. Reminds me I should get in for one.

I will never do cortisone shots. Dr said this stuff can basically "eat" your tendons.

"Cortisone injections in the shoulder can negatively impact tendons by potentially weakening them and inhibiting their ability to heal, increasing the risk of tendon rupture, especially with repeated injections, due to the breakdown of tissue caused by the steroid medication within the injection; this is why healthcare providers often advise caution when using cortisone injections near tendons, particularly in the shoulder area where rotator cuff injuries are common. "

 

[jackedsanta]

I know someone else chimed in about carnivore which I'm not but I have done exclusively for a six month period of time (beef eggs salt water) and there's definitely something to be said for the anti-inflammatory response I felt by not having any direct carbohydrates and eating only beef eggs salt and water. That said (for me) it was not sustainable outside of the anti-inflammatory benefits

 

[Fa Seeshus]

Get your thyroid checked. Low thyroid can cause these issues too.

 

[Reno911]

I get a Monovisc shot once or twice a year. Reminds me I should get in for one.

I will never do cortisone shots. Dr said this stuff can basically "eat" your tendons.

"Cortisone injections in the shoulder can negatively impact tendons by potentially weakening them and inhibiting their ability to heal, increasing the risk of tendon rupture, especially with repeated injections, due to the breakdown of tissue caused by the steroid medication within the injection; this is why healthcare providers often advise caution when using cortisone injections near tendons, particularly in the shoulder area where rotator cuff injuries are common. "

What's the down time from training after the Monovisc?

 

[buck]

^^^This
I slobber that cream all over my joints and come out on the gym floor looking more or less like Robocop, padded up with elbow, knees and wrist wraps. Cream does help in keeping the area warm thus increasing blood flow. The stench from the cream tho has become my new Old Spice...

The creams i have used have been odorless as far as i can tell. What brand did you use? I avoid the ones with menthol and other ingredients as i don't want the smell and get results from just the capsaicin. I only feel the warm when i use a lot and am near a heat source with straight capsaicin.

 

[gauge22-v2]

What's the down time from training after the Monovisc?

I have not done upper body the day after my shoulder shot, but not much time off. They give you the speech about not doing anything with the shoulder for a week, but I have ignored that.

 

[Hell]

Drop the GH completely, that very well may help after 7 days off
Meat, eggs, & and fruit diet to drop water weight
Then add in
Gabapentin every other night at 600mg

If that doesn’t help then you can try
Bpc at 1mg a day or eod
Tb500 at 5mg a week

 

[M@NU]

This.

Hyaluronic acid injections. By your ortho. Covered by insurance (mine). Every three or four months. Been a life saver for me.

i have an appointment at my ortho at the 19th february to talk about that.
i consider it for my knees since they are completely shot.
not covered by my insurance but i can live with that.
ill update this thread once i was there

 

[alfresco]

i have an appointment at my ortho at the 19th february to talk about that.
i consider it for my knees since they are completely shot.
not covered by my insurance but i can live with that.
ill update this thread once i was there

Lt us know how this works for you as others may benefit from your experience.

It has really helped me. First shot took
awhile to kick in. (Had other chems injected so hard to tell.) Second time felt noticeably better in a day or so. Now pain free. There is a lot of data on the effectiveness on the knees not so much on the shoulder. But I will take what I can get. As far as I’m concerned there is no shoulder op in my future if I can keep doing what I am doing and it keeps working