FAKE JINOTROPE BEING MADE

PROSOMEDAY · Nov 5, 2004

Haven't posted in awhile and I am sorry to make this kinda the come back post. However just want to let everyone know that the same people who were making the fake serono kits, somject kits are now at it again... I know that they are being produced in the midwest and a lot of them shipped to Cali. Anyone who knows one of the main guys who did the somas whose first letter of his first name began with S is the one involved. They were busted doing the somajects and now have set up shop again.. I would think people would begin to wonder why there was a sudden influx of these but apparently not. The biggest difference you will see in the fakes is the tops, holograms, and they will not be in the metalic bags.. I am sick of the shit I see on the boards anymore. Gone are the days when people actually watched out for people. I will predict that unless a group of people or someone comes in and establishes some type of trust, the board world of bodybuilding is doomed. I understand BB is a selfish sport but the shit I see today is fucking retarded.
Anyway just wanted to give everyone a heads up.

PHIL HERNON · Nov 5, 2004

HEY

We appreciate it I can tell you that!!! I said the same thing about the somaject kits a while ago and got a "scolding".

PROSOMEDAY · Nov 5, 2004

Hey phil, I know you were a constant proponant of the message. And yea you were scolded, but I know who was involved and what they thought and bottom line is Seb is the one who is behind it all and he is the main liar. I know that the kits that are faked are only the 100iu's and are mainly composed of HCG and small doses of GH.

PHIL HERNON · Nov 5, 2004

The thing that bothers me is

That CANINO told me, who had to get out of all of that for unknown reasons. He told me the names of the people behind it and they were respected members of THIS BOARD. I kept my mouth shut as well as I could because some were my friends. I said it was fake but I didnt name the people involved. That would have really got me "scolded". hahahaahha

PROSOMEDAY · Nov 5, 2004

This is primarily why I am getting and have been off the boards.. Gone are the days when you could trust people. I know a lot of people who go off others word and in the end they look bad for doing so. I really do believe that the government doesn't need to do shit to bring down the boards,, the people on them will do that just fine. People are to busy trying to maintain a rep, or don't follow through with their word, or have become flat out selfish because they want to make money. I think the biggest problem though is that there are a lot of good people who want to feel like they are in the game and so they make promises they can't keep or hell just say things that you can't believe. That is the biggest downfall I see today.

A50# · Nov 5, 2004

Fake Jins

Do these kits look excatly like the real ones? Any pics?

immortal · Nov 5, 2004

I thought a guy from iowa that both bba and i know was busted for making the fake kits. I think he was from mason city. Any way, I was also told some body was busted here in chicago. Has any one else hear any thing like this?
Thanks

dragonfire101 · Nov 6, 2004

what are the differences in the tops and halograms. I know a few bros who have the 100iu kits.

Guess they have fakse because dont know what metal bags you are talking about.

PROSOMEDAY · Nov 6, 2004

First off the people who were making this did get in trouble, infact they are in the process of dealing with that now, however they only busted one of the machines they were making so basically they just changed venues and reset up shop. Now as far as the metal bags,, if you get the kits directly from china they should come in a metallic looking bag,, its not metal. I just got a reply on another board from a guy who said he had jins with YELLOW TOPS,, I have NEVER seen jins with anything other than green ones on both the 100 and 200iu kits so to me that might be the first indicator. Another thing,, I don't know specifics on who is sourcing these now so if its a second or third hand person getting these I can't say much. Now on another board I had someone ask why I am fucking with this and the people who are doing it on are not worth the time to piss on,, HOWEVER... Let me make you all think for a second. First off YES SEB DID GET PINCHED and when he did he went around pointing fingers or trying to claim there were lots of other people involved in it, for the most part he is the main one and yea other people may have been involved but they didn't know they were getting rid of fakes,, however from what I am told when they got popped they only got one of their 3 machines taken used to make this stuff. Now you may say remember there are a lot of good guys and he is not worth it.. THEY ARE MAKING 100s of these kits and WHO DO YOU THINK THEY ARE SELLING THEM TO HUH???? You think they are selling them on the street, no way. Yes some of the second hand sources may know whats going on, but people are ignorant. THIS IS MY POINT,, call it what you want but the board community has gotten LAZY, and people go for deals that are to good to be true,, we all know it. Yea I could say fuck it and why should I give a shit, but you know what that is the exact reason the boards have GONE TO SHIT... Point is these fakes are flooding the market and your not gonna get just the assholes selling these. I have seen over on another board where somenoe has asked if Jins he got with "yellow" tops are fake. I have never heard of them having anything other than green tops for both the 100 and 200 iu kits so this could be a warning sign.

dragonfire101 · Nov 6, 2004

i heard they switched tops with the new batches . Anways i just tested some yellow tops and it wasnt't hcg ,dont know what that means. Maybe just underdosed. I thought the metal bag was this little peice a paper wrapped around a metal pice soft rock/metal or something the size of a nickel that came inside some jin kits that is wedged between the foam and the top of 1 of the jin vials. .

Mr.Huge · Nov 6, 2004

Phil you bad boy you...

lol... yes you were correct and yes you were scolded. What these poor members of these boards dont know however, as i have said many times b4 there is a tight crew on the net and they like to think the run shit when it comes down to it and well they do in a sense where $$ naking is concerned via sourcing etc. They are very well know and people whom everyone seems to trust,what these poor victims just dont get is that those people whom they think they can truly trust are some of the most downright dirty scandelous ass muthafuckers with their fingers always dabling in the pot of gold.

Greedy as muthfuckers who will do all they can to stick together and make as much money as they can. Oh don't get me worng even when they are supposed to be keeping there pricing etc the same and not cheating one another out of any money making they do that as well.

You really can't trust anyone in this game so your best bet is face to face dealing not dealing over the net. Sooner or later they will get you one way or the other. Sooner or later they too will go down. What goes around comes around and Karma will strike back 10 fold. They think they will get away with sourcing and cheating people out of there hard earned cash etc. Well they might until they get caught oh and yes even those who think they wont get caught will get caught sooner or laters its only a matter of time. Not too many smart ones left, they get to greedy and wnat to more and more then they can handle. Then one day its too late....they either fall off the face of the eacrth or they end up getting fucked in the ass as the shrivel back down to size in prison.

Mr.Huge

muscle96ss · Nov 6, 2004

Yellow tops are 100% real; they switched a short time ago(I think they may use the green for the 200IU kits now, but not positive on that). The info was posted a short time ago directly from GenSci on other boards. They also explained what to look for in the fakes but I forget what it said.

Steak Helmet · Nov 6, 2004

PROSOMEDAY said:
Haven't posted in awhile and I am sorry to make this kinda the come back post. However just want to let everyone know that the same people who were making the fake serono kits, somject kits are now at it again... I know that they are being produced in the midwest and a lot of them shipped to Cali. Anyone who knows one of the main guys who did the somas whose first letter of his first name began with S is the one involved. They were busted doing the somajects and now have set up shop again.. I would think people would begin to wonder why there was a sudden influx of these but apparently not. The biggest difference you will see in the fakes is the tops, holograms, and they will not be in the metalic bags.. I am sick of the shit I see on the boards anymore. Gone are the days when people actually watched out for people. I will predict that unless a group of people or someone comes in and establishes some type of trust, the board world of bodybuilding is doomed. I understand BB is a selfish sport but the shit I see today is fucking retarded.
Anyway just wanted to give everyone a heads up.

thank you for the heads up...shit like this is so disturbing. People out to injure others just to make a buck...or not see them succeed in our sport so they can come out on top.

Things have just become too open...open sourcing is a huge thing now...back in the day, there was only a few people sourcing and it took someone months or years to get their contact information from someone. Now there are more scams than poeple out there helping others. WEll best of luck to all...watch your ass...and if things are too good then they probably are.

big4nuthin · Nov 6, 2004

I got the yellow tops!

It Came from china, but not in a metal bag to the best of my knowledge! How do I tell? Staright from a factory outlet! Been on for about 3 weeks and cant really tell. I just get to the 4 iu mark. No sides , but am starting to look tighter imo. Jeez, how do I tell?

dpsquat · Nov 6, 2004

hmm

the yellows from china are ok ! interesting news though! sure your not thinking of the serono thing!

PROSOMEDAY · Nov 6, 2004

Yes,, as I said I have heard the yellow ones are ok..

massxpress · Nov 7, 2004

That's why i have always stuck to old fashioned junk...I long for the days when you could go to the track and get winny and the big jugs of eq. Man , back in the late 80's early 90's..there was some comraderie. We used to share stuff even if competing against each other. It was like ok let's take as much shit as we can and then see who has the better genetics!!!! I liked that. I know it's not onn the topic but I am a proponent of high dose short cycles. I mean,100-150 winny/100 suspension/100 primo per day..works well.

saint808 · Nov 8, 2004

i have a friend who just ordered 3 jino kits and he is crazy enough to track and kill people. He's an ex bail bondsman who is not to stable.

PROSOMEDAY · Nov 8, 2004

Heres basically what I am finding out..... There are 3 types of kits...

1) The real ones that come from China
2) Underground ones from China that are faked but have real and accurately
dosed GH
3) The nothing but HCG or very low dosed Fake GH which is being made in
the states

So you have to understand that there are gonna be different types of people
1) The people who get real GH

2) The people who get Kits from China but can't say whether they are
underground

3) The sources who may be good guys but don't know they are getting fake
stuff cause NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING so they don't think to check and
trust people who maybe have gained there trust through being good so
they can get them to buy stuff

4) And of course the main and second hand people who know what they are
doing and know that the stuff is fake. These are the people who need to
be weeded out. And cause people who source real stuff big problems as
well as cause people who may trustingly get kits from them to source only
to have people find out they are fake and be pissed at them

Lastly, it is of course hard to know when someone has been in the know or is
just saying so,, but that is why I posted this whole thing. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, and my thought is it doesn't matter if you are a legit source,, if you find out something you should let people know.. I look at it like it is only better in the long run. Communication is the key and once people realize that and start looking out for each other things will be better.