gh and colitis

richie34 · Jul 31, 2006

hi this is my first post so i hope i have done this ok. right does anybody have any experience with colitis and aas ? when i take test and decca last time i had flare up of colitis due to imune response, have been told pros use hgh to help with this eg flex wheeler ? great board by the way hope someone can help with this.

Love too compete · Aug 14, 2006

I have colitis and my doc told me to stay away from oral tabs.I have never read anything about gh and colitis.Save your money.Best of luck!

cryptasm · Aug 16, 2006

i cant understand why there would be any reason you should stay away from gh or igf for that matter. i'm no expert on colitis but if it were me i would research the disease best i can and see if there would be any contidictions to higher gh, or test levels..i cant at this point understand why they would cause a problem, GH or IGF would facilitate repair as well as AAS. Plus an enhanced immune system, and if you could find some nutrtional supps that would be benificial to the disease I would use them while on cycle to see if I could enhace the repair of that specific inflamation,,,
Glutamine???
Definatly I would use a thymic protien or thymus extract/peptides.to improve my immune system..also a glutathione supp. either immunocal or NAC, also a natural Vit C (ascorbic acid from acerola cherry extract) and I was on IBE site and innovative research site today somewhere I saw a product that they sell that mentioned intestinal health or something like that..i dont remember if it was ghrp-6, or one of IBE's oral prods, but shit yeah, do the reasaerch and make an educated decision...
I never heard of any disease that they prescribe a drug to lower your GH output for ..therefore why would a reasonably higher GH 'IGF level cause a problem regarding any disease..except maybee cancer, and I wouln't write it off for cancer either untill i reasearched myself and made a descion based on facts not hearsay or what some Dr that knows nutin about GH ewxcept its Illegal to prescribe to anyone but midgets..most Dr's have spent 0 hours reading anything on HGH effects and benifits, all they know about it and AAS is what they hear on CNN and read in the paper...
good luc, let us know what u find out

richie34 · Aug 16, 2006

thanks for the reply love to compete and crypasm what i meant was gh is supposed to prevent flare up of colitis so is good im currently on 4iu 5/2 at moment and have been on 6 weeks now am hopeing to add some mild aas at some point,my last two cycles were test/decca and both had to be abborted in week 5 when test kicked in so i know theres def some sort of conection but hadnt read of gh's protective power at that point. thanks again for your time ozz

dragonfire101 · Aug 17, 2006

There is a very high concentration of IGF-1 receptors in the intestinal tract. When IGF-1 levels are significantly elevated these intestinal receptors are stimulated allowing for GI tract growth. Gh would increase IGF-1 in the stomach.

Onecould assume a person with colitis could have some negative disturbances in their intestinal function, but also maybe for the better. It really depends on the individual and how their body will respond.

Researchers have hypothesized that “GH would ameliorate colitis by upregulating SOCS-3 or SHP2 and reducing STAT3 activation

richie34 · Aug 17, 2006

thanks for that dragonfire101 things seem better already on gh but have yet to add aas like i said before either test or decca gave problems before maybe decca as ive read that it has a strong effect on immune function just wish i knew how other people cycled with this condition which aas and also any prescribed drugs also, flex wheeler and a few others obviously manage it! thanks again ozzie

Love too compete · Aug 17, 2006

cryptasm said:
i cant understand why there would be any reason you should stay away from gh or igf for that matter. i'm no expert on colitis but if it were me i would research the disease best i can and see if there would be any contidictions to higher gh, or test levels..i cant at this point understand why they would cause a problem, GH or IGF would facilitate repair as well as AAS. Plus an enhanced immune system, and if you could find some nutrtional supps that would be benificial to the disease I would use them while on cycle to see if I could enhace the repair of that specific inflamation,,,
Glutamine???
Definatly I would use a thymic protien or thymus extract/peptides.to improve my immune system..also a glutathione supp. either immunocal or NAC, also a natural Vit C (ascorbic acid from acerola cherry extract) and I was on IBE site and innovative research site today somewhere I saw a product that they sell that mentioned intestinal health or something like that..i dont remember if it was ghrp-6, or one of IBE's oral prods, but shit yeah, do the reasaerch and make an educated decision...
I never heard of any disease that they prescribe a drug to lower your GH output for ..therefore why would a reasonably higher GH 'IGF level cause a problem regarding any disease..except maybee cancer, and I wouln't write it off for cancer either untill i reasearched myself and made a descion based on facts not hearsay or what some Dr that knows nutin about GH ewxcept its Illegal to prescribe to anyone but midgets..most Dr's have spent 0 hours reading anything on HGH effects and benifits, all they know about it and AAS is what they hear on CNN and read in the paper...
good luc, let us know what u find out

My doctor know his shit when it comes to AAS,he does research and left to go to Calgary Alberta, him and his wife both went there,but it is true most don't know shit when it come to AAS,i was lucky to have him for the time he was here in Ottawa.He said gear was okay but no orals and when i did some i had a flare up,and frendly bacteria is very good for the intestine i did my Nutritionist course and it talked about it.I did work in a health food store before and there isn't much in there good for you,and i know they have all this shit that they prey on the desperate.One final thing was he told me to stay away from ECA'S and it slows blood flow to the intestine,and i lived on the stuff for 15 years.The problem is its a Autoimmune disease,your body is turning against the organ,but it doesn't matter what you do for the immune system it won't help the only help you need is to stop the organ from turning against you.For me it take Asacol, 8 tabs a day for my colitis.Best of luck!

richie34 · Aug 18, 2006

reply to lovetocompete

thanks for your time lovetocompete do you take asacol 8per day when on cycle as prevention of flare up or only when you are already flareing? i have been using prednisolone when flare up to put me back into remission and have not tried using anything yet to avoid future flares,maybe where im going wrong? i see my doc soon so will see what he thinks,last time i saw him he said at this stage not to bother and call him if i flare up i told him about decca and test and he said to stay away but you know thats not what i want to here lol any way thanks again lovetocompete hope to here again richie34

bgmke7 · Aug 18, 2006

from the little i know and read about colitis prednisolone will only eat away at your muscle and cause enormous water weight gain.some doctors say its just not they way to treat the disease, yet they give no other forms of treatment either(go figure with docs).hope you get your condition under control.if it was me i would definitely find a way to put some AAS along with th GH into the mix just to combat the muscle wasting from the prednisolone.good luck.
later