I never aspirate ever. Done syntherol in my calves, arms and chest. Syntherol in arms is easy compared to calves... never had any issues. I use 0.5-1 inch pins in my arms for seo so slin pins can be used but you need to push them in deep. Ideally you want to be fairly deep in the muscle but I never use more than 1 inch.
Geez man, I used to do some site injections in my calves and aspirated blood on several occasions. You may also recall I did a brief run with syntherol in my forearm and I aspirated blood 3-4 times there as well. I'd be scared as hell to inject anywhere but the quads and glutes and not aspirate given all that.
Do you try to inject into the muscle belly itself or do you try to get underneath it (which I believe Dave Palumbo suggests)?
I have pretty much tried everything. I even try things I think won't be good just so I can learn. By that nothing silly but an example with seo would be injecting my bi-ceps (and other muscles) too high or low. So for bi-ceps right on the edge of the muscle so it can lead to unnecessary inflammation. Bi-ceps for me are easy to do but I have certain techniques when injecting syntherol. I know if I hit something and pull out if needed. Guys should know if they hit something but many inject fast and don't think too much about it and just push the plunger. I can pretty much tell every time and I pull out and the blood comes out. I have injected myself that many times it's second nature now
Forearms are the one area I wouldn't do due to the amount of nerves etc. I would hate for anything to effect my grip too. Bi-ceps can be the same for some people but for me the easiest muscle by a long way.
I have pretty much tried everything. I even try things I think won't be good just so I can learn. By that nothing silly but an example with seo would be injecting my bi-ceps (and other muscles) too high or low. So for bi-ceps right on the edge of the muscle so it can lead to unnecessary inflammation. Bi-ceps for me are easy to do but I have certain techniques when injecting syntherol. I know if I hit something and pull out if needed. Guys should know if they hit something but many inject fast and don't think too much about it and just push the plunger. I can pretty much tell every time and I pull out and the blood comes out. I have injected myself that many times it's second nature now
Forearms are the one area I wouldn't do due to the amount of nerves etc. I would hate for anything to effect my grip too. Bi-ceps can be the same for some people but for me the easiest muscle by a long way.
What do you mean by "right on the edge of the muscle? Can you explain exactly how you recommend doing SEO in the biceps?
Also, have you kept long term size from SEO in your arms or does it all fade away within a few weeks / months of stopping?
I always aspirate and would always recommend you do so. If you get a flash then pull back and redirect and reaspirate. To each his own. I have hit veins ( and arteries lol) in patients before and I am glad I aspirated and will continue to do so no matter who tells me not to necessary. It takes half a second
Thank you for the in depth response Elvia
Would this nearly completely eliminate the risk of an embolism? As in, is the only way for an embolism to occur if one injects into the vein directly or can it happen later even if one injects into the muscle?
GG I dont know if you have seen my posts in this thread so just to clarify..I always aspirate and would always recommend you do so. If you get a flash then pull back and redirect and reaspirate. To each his own. I have hit veins ( and arteries lol) in patients before and I am glad I aspirated and will continue to do so no matter who tells me not to necessary. It takes half a second
GG I dont know if you have seen my posts in this thread so just to clarify..
You would still recommend to aspirate if I was to pin AAS with insulin pins (0.5 inch length) or say 3/4 of an inch or 5/8 of an inch pin.
Mostly its 0.5 inch slin pin 9 out ot 10 times unless i am doing lesser density oil like NPP. Everything else is slin pins.
I just cant see how i can nick a vein with that tiny needle length if i am pinning my quad, delts, chest, lats.
I have never had a issue.
I pin my test sub q only now . No IM.
after i did a sub q test cruise for 4 months and saw my blood work/ test levels I got convinced its better that way. off the chart T levels at 250 mg test cyp / 1 ml divided in 4 slin pin shots across the week. Why bother IM , scar tissue etc.
so what i have been doing since sep 2016 or so is
test - sub q ( i play with the dose, blast or cruise)
Anabolics alone goes IM in slin pins , tren A & E, deca, EQ high dosed gear except NPP which i prefer to do with a 2.5 ml barrel with 3/4 inch or 5/8 inch 27 G or rarely 26 G pin. mostly its 27 G.
I have done NPP sub q as well no problem, just adds up shots if i am aiming for 600 ml so 6x 1 ml slin pins therefore i may do it in bigger barrel / G .
Thoughts please. Many thanks.
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250 mg suppdude not 250ml shots lolNot trying to get off topic but when you do 250ml/4 shots sub q, no issues with knots or anything huh? No sub q yet but been pondering the idea lately.
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250 mg suppdude not 250ml shots lol
and i divided 250 mg in 4 slin pins . not 250 x 4 shots . not a gram of test !
i have experimented it all volumes sub q.
my findings are...
0.5 ml volume guaranteed lump . filled 2 5-6 pins like that and all of them lumped.
0.4 ml again lumped for me 5-6 shots might have done 2 weeks like that lol
don't worry they dont last. they disappear. unless you work as a male stripper at a gay nighclub having your abs stroked and licked you will be fine. If you do work as a male stripper in a gay nightclub then stick to IM would be my advice.
0.35 ml . very tiny lump sometimes , or no lump 50-50
0.32-0.33 ml no lump/ 95 percent success rate.
0.3 ml volume 100 percent success rate
I pin 0.33 ml in every slin pin to get the volume.
vest way is if u want more test have 7 shots a week / daily shots and use high concentration gear like genos test e x 300 mg per ml.
never tried his test - 500 . i know people complain of bad pip IM but want to try 0.30 or 0.33 ml of it just to experiment.
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I stick by my recommendation, but to expound a little...the OP was asking, it sounded like specifically the risks of Syntherol in the brachial artery. I pictured an individual spot injecting a large volume of oil deep into the biceps tissue. Indeed, for the layperson, that area is a mine field for vascular spaces. The importance of aspiration has been de-emphasized for areas like the glute where important vascularity is extremely minimal. The recommendation wasn't intended for bodybuilders that are pinning all types of stuff in abundance.
Lol my bad dawg. I meant mg, not ml. I knew what you were trying to say.
I was just curious because everyone says don't do over 0.2ml per slin shot sub q or lumps every time. And would daily shots, so not an issue at 210mg per week. Simply just curious how those larger shots effected you.
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Machine u recommend aspirating ?? what really ?
Isn't this shit deemed outdated and not necessary. I pin most gear with slin pins in back, delts, chest, quads.
Test into fat or drop it past subcutaneous fat in the stomach.
Slin pins dont go deep so what risk they really bring anyway?
or occasionally i use 3/4 or 5/8 length 27 G pin or 26 G pin. rarely 26 G.
please advice. thanks
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