He likes this combo...why ??

[bigbaldbulldog]

My buddy wants to do 75mgs tren/100mgs suspension EOD and 50 mgs anadrol ed for 6 weeks..i have never done that combo..i told him that i suspect he will gain about 15-20 lbs most of which will be water.is that correct?...along with getting strong as hell...if he gains 20 lbs he will loose about 15-17 of that, even if he uses HCG/clomid....

He has done cycles for 5 years and it has been cyp/tren/d-boll or winnie/tre/deca ...he wants to do something different ...all he wants to do is put on mass so he can cut up for the beach starting in late march...and be ready by June..he is already 8% at 195lbs...his diet is alwasy clean the dude never eats or craves sweets or junky fatty foods...always good..
Diet will be

400g Protein = 1600 cal's
1200g Carbs = 4800 cal's
75g Fats = 675 cal's

Total = 7075 cal's / day

Pittbull

 

[haze324]

..I think your numbers are a bit off.

 

[Pittbull™]

Diet will be
400 grams protein..1200 cal's...22%
1200 carbs....3,600 cal's.....66%
75 fats...675 cal's..............12%

........total...5475 cal's

400g Protein = 1600 cal's
1200g Carbs = 4800 cal's
75g Fats = 675 cal's

Total = 7075 cal's / day

Pittbull

 

[PHIL HERNON]

?

This thread is confusing and does not make a lot of sense. Are you tired BBB?

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Also

My buddy wants to do 75mgs tren/100mgs suspension EOD and 50 mgs anadrol ed for 6 weeks..i have never done that combo..i told him that i suspect he will gain about 15-20 lbs most of which will be water.is that correct?...along with getting strong as hell...if he gains 20 lbs he will loose about 15-17 of that, even if he uses HCG/clomid....

He has done cycles for 5 years and it has been cyp/tren/d-boll or winnie/tre/deca ...he wants to do something different ...all he wants to do is put on mass so he can cut up for the beach starting in late march...and be ready by June..he is already 8% at 195lbs...his diet is alwasy clean the dude never eats or craves sweets or junky fatty foods...always good..
Diet will be
400 grams protein..1200 cal's...22%
1200 carbs....3,600 cal's.....66%
75 fats...675 cal's..............12%

........total...5475 cal's

That totals 7075 calories. I dont believe he eats that much. weighing 195.

 

[mike1107]

400g Protein = 1600 cal's
1200g Carbs = 4800 cal's
75g Fats = 675 cal's

Total = 7075 cal's / day

Pittbull

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[Pittbull™]

Yeah, that's a heck of a lot of food, specially if as you say he always eats "clean" and no junk food or sweets. Just as a rough guide that's like 40 cans of 185g tuna (if all cal where from protein), noy that's a shit load of food in anyones books!!
I'm assumeing he's a hard gainer with that amount of carbs? or he's extremly active (such as a labourer)

Pittbull

 

[TooPowerful4u]

Alright i doubt hes eatin 7k calories per day lol. More realistic the protein can be done but hes not gettin 1200g carbs per day, maybe more like half that which is still a good amount.

I never understood people taking suspension EOD when its half life is like 1 day (coulda sworn it was 4.5hrs cause i know lots of poeple used it successfully with 2x per day shots). Tell him hes gotta do ED shots for the suspension. It doesnt have an ester attached so its not very long lived. He will prolly hold some water from the drol, but thats not always a bad thing. Water does help with strength a little which = more muscle gained. Id give him a good 20lb gain probably half of that is water, and hel end up holding around 8lbs if he eats as much as you say he plans to. 6 weeks is not a very long time for a cycle IMO and you cant expect huge gains in such a short period of time. On the other hand if hes runnin 6 on 2-4 off cycles then he will probably have some good accumulative gains.

 

[Armageddon]

That' hard to believe.
That would be less than 12 cans of tuna. Tuna has 26g protein per can. It's 2 servings at 13g protein I believe. Depends on what kind you get.
What's wrong with suspension and fina. I'm doing both in my next blast and I'm going to use Anadrol in there but I'm only going to use it for the 2 middle weeks. He will blow up from this. If he eats fairly good he can retain alot of it.

 

[bigbaldbulldog]

hey thanks guys...i just forwarded and copied his letter as far as numbers go..i am toooo tired to figure out if he was right...as far as the calories go, he doubled his intake for the cycle....just cut in half with the carbs and that was what he normally eats..he eats 5 meals a day with 3 shakes on top of that...

i will let him know that he should do susp ED if not 2 x's a day...should i tell him to do 100mgs 2 x's a day or 50 mgs 2 x's a day...

I'd like to see him do this for 6 weeks then do :
100mgs prop ED
75 mgs Parabolon EOD
35 mgs D-boll ED

for the next 6 weeks with HCG/clomid at weeks 5-6 then at 13-14

take a month to 6 weeks off then do :
50mgs winnie ED
100mgs Masteron EOD
75 mgs Parabolon EOD
100 mgs Prop ED

do this for 8-10 weeks for the summer.....but hey that is just me !! Infact i like this, i think i will start next week...

 

[Mr Pickles]

yeah, just switch the susp for prop and that would solve that timing issue

 

[TooPowerful4u]

I know more than a few people who feel they get a bigger kick and gains from suspension compared to prop. He should do 50mg 2x per day, or if hes one of those guys who grows off really low doses just do 25mg 2x per day. If hes lazy just do 100mg ED haha. Masteron iv known as only a precontest drug. I dont know of any1 who has used it besides for a show, so i dunno what kinda results thatl yield for sum1 lookin for a beach bod haha.

 

[saint808]

he have a power cage above the toilet? i know i would need one to work out and eat that much.

 

[big_byrd52]

That' hard to believe.
That would be less than 12 cans of tuna. Tuna has 26g protein per can. It's 2 servings at 13g protein I believe. Depends on what kind you get.
What's wrong with suspension and fina. I'm doing both in my next blast and I'm going to use Anadrol in there but I'm only going to use it for the 2 middle weeks. He will blow up from this. If he eats fairly good he can retain alot of it.

Actually, it is 13g a serving for 2.5 servings, so 32g a can

 

[big_byrd52]

About the Masteron, i have friend, a good sized friend at aboyt 5'11 308, who just tried it in a bulker with anadrols and test. he said it was great for growth. I guess its kinda like winny, its only used during a diet, but i know a few guys who blow up with it when they are eating.

 

[bigbaldbulldog]

growing and gettign big is all about food not drugs....we must keep that in mind...no amount of drugs will make us huge if we do not eat enough

 

[worldspan]

growing and gettign big is all about food not drugs....we must keep that in mind...no amount of drugs will make us huge if we do not eat enough

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