Hematocrit observation

[slayer37]

I'm this guy right here. I read 2-5pts higher (never ever lower) via finger vs blood from vein. Replicated numerous times with finger and blood same day and same hydration level. Finger prick machine calibrated recently multiple times too. Always thought it was odd or maybe just me as lab/nurses were perplexed but with overwhelming data on me just accepted it.

Hydration plays a big role too for me. Several points on hgb and crit.

As far as hydration, if anything I'm dehydrated. On a good dose of clen & cramping. Also ephedrine and caffeine.
By that logic, both markers would be higher, no?
I understand there can be variances with finger prick vs IV draw. But the decrease in HCT/Hb over the past 8 weeks has been too significant and consistent to ignore. I'll be able to hard- confirm in 5 weeks when I get my postshow bloodwork.
I generally get a comprehensive panel 4-5 times/ year. After this show is over I'll almost certainly go back to eating a ton of red meat because I feel good and build more muscle on it, and even with the red meat my HCT/Hb is still completely within the normal range. I'll post follow-ups in this thread going forward.

 

[specter]

ive seen the same in my blood tests, when i follow the "vertical diet" by stan efferding vs when im on chicken and rice.

 

[b-boy]

I can see how reduction of red meat can help lower hematocrit I'm just wondering if weight loss can also contribute to that reduction?

Do you guys with high hematocrit eat grapefruit???
You probably should.

 

[Mufasa123]

As far as hydration, if anything I'm dehydrated. On a good dose of clen & cramping. Also ephedrine and caffeine.
By that logic, both markers would be higher, no?
I understand there can be variances with finger prick vs IV draw. But the decrease in HCT/Hb over the past 8 weeks has been too significant and consistent to ignore. I'll be able to hard- confirm in 5 weeks when I get my postshow bloodwork.
I generally get a comprehensive panel 4-5 times/ year. After this show is over I'll almost certainly go back to eating a ton of red meat because I feel good and build more muscle on it, and even with the red meat my HCT/Hb is still completely within the normal range. I'll post follow-ups in this thread going forward.

I'm big on bloodwork too. Probably 3x yearly minimum but I've done 5-6 just to see how various compounds were moving things.

Definitely interested in more data and see what you come up with. Please do keep us posted.

 

[specter]

Do you guys with high hematocrit eat grapefruit???
You probably should.

Tried it, did absolut 0 for me on my bloodwork and i mean eating an entire grapefruit daily also tried it as a an otc sub same result. But in general even tho my hematocrit and hemoglobin is high my other numbers are fine, clottin factor, particle size etc all are fine and doctor is not worried.

 

[bigzzz]

Been using 4,000FU for many years and just bumped to 8,000 about 4 weeks ago. Cruising on 200/week but I have a baseline of labs for plenty of years so I can see if there are changes.

Getting labs in another week or so but maybe 5 weeks at that higher dose isn't long enough to tell if there is an effect anemia markers.

I'll report back.

And?

 

[CorgisOnTren]

And?

For what it’s worth, I’ve been taking 8000fus ever since Dante recommended it a while back and have never had anemia issues.

 

[Reno911]

And?

It was 53 on 10-2. The rest of my CBC markers were fine. I was plenty hydrated so the only variable was that due to a surgery I am still off of baby aspirin. I know the research and bro science says aspirin doesn't affect hematocrit but I think it does. Everytime I have gone off aspirin for a procedure my hematocrit will rise a few points.

I did recently bump it to 10,000 due to the 2022 study with 1000+ participants that showed 10,800/day reduced arterial plaque.

 

[Doitagain]

Tried it, did absolut 0 for me on my bloodwork and i mean eating an entire grapefruit daily also tried it as a an otc sub same result. But in general even tho my hematocrit and hemoglobin is high my other numbers are fine, clottin factor, particle size etc all are fine and doctor is not worried.

Believe it or not, the naringin capsules from Swanson worked brilliantly for me. HCT and HB never went overboard again.

 

[Alzadosghost]

Believe it or not, the naringin capsules from Swanson worked brilliantly for me. HCT and HB never went overboard again.

Naringen capsules huh? I never thought of that but I do eat grapefruit every day and my numbers have always been good even on a pretty decent course. I’m ordering some as we speak.

 

[Bobik]

Believe it or not, the naringin capsules from Swanson worked brilliantly for me. HCT and HB never went overboard again.

what amount per day? 1 tab twice a day?

 

[Doitagain]

what amount per day? 1 tab twice a day?

Mere 500mg a day (one capsule). Empty stomach, upon waking.

 

[Doitagain]

Naringen capsules huh? I never thought of that but I do eat grapefruit every day and my numbers have always been good even on a pretty decent course. I’m ordering some as we speak.

I actually love the taste of grapefruit but the naringin content can vary immensely depending on so many factors.

 

[specter]

Believe it or not, the naringin capsules from Swanson worked brilliantly for me. HCT and HB never went overboard again.

Didnt do shit for me sadly.

 

[Doitagain]

Didnt do shit for me sadly.

You tried only the fruit itself, not the pure isolated compound right?

 

[specter]

You tried only the fruit itself, not the pure isolated compound right?

Tried both nada effect, i have tried so insanely many supps over the years i must have a placker at amazon's warehouse at this point.

 

[whoremoan]

As far as hydration, if anything I'm dehydrated. On a good dose of clen & cramping. Also ephedrine and caffeine.
By that logic, both markers would be higher, no?
I understand there can be variances with finger prick vs IV draw. But the decrease in HCT/Hb over the past 8 weeks has been too significant and consistent to ignore. I'll be able to hard- confirm in 5 weeks when I get my postshow bloodwork.
I generally get a comprehensive panel 4-5 times/ year. After this show is over I'll almost certainly go back to eating a ton of red meat because I feel good and build more muscle on it, and even with the red meat my HCT/Hb is still completely within the normal range. I'll post follow-ups in this thread going forward.

my theory is clen lowers hemo , its a bronchodilator which makes it easier to breath allowing more oxygen into the blood

 

[Doitagain]

my theory is clen lowers hemo , its a bronchodilator which makes it easier to breath allowing more oxygen into the blood

So you hypothesize the opposite effect of high altitude (hypoxia leading to higher HCT).
It's an interesting theory, but clenbuterol does not cause significant improvement in arterial oxygenation.

 

[iron lifter]

Believe it or not, the naringin capsules from Swanson worked brilliantly for me. HCT and HB never went overboard again.

did it cause any side effects? i heard to take it away from other prescription meds and it can't be combined with Cialis due to sever low bp levels?

 

[Doitagain]

did it cause any side effects? i heard to take it away from other prescription meds and it can't be combined with Cialis due to sever low bp levels?

Just take it away from other medications...unless you want a stronger effect from said medication of course.
No sides whatsoever.