high liver enzymes due to high protein intake

[duceswild]

this was a huge surprise to me call me naive but i never thought that could happen i good friend of mine had to stem off protein shakes due to his elevated enzymes. doc said it was due to too much protein! thats crazy what are his options?

 

[pesty4077]

this was a huge surprise to me call me naive but i never thought that could happen i good friend of mine had to stem off protein shakes due to his elevated enzymes. doc said it was due to too much protein! thats crazy what are his options?

He needs a supplement to help protect his liver, maybe milk thistle or liv 52.

 

[Big Bapper]

this was a huge surprise to me call me naive but i never thought that could happen i good friend of mine had to stem off protein shakes due to his elevated enzymes. doc said it was due to too much protein! thats crazy what are his options?

I don't think protein shakes would cause elevated liver enzymes, however I am no doctor so I would go with Syntergine by board sponsors Synthetek.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

BS

this was a huge surprise to me call me naive but i never thought that could happen i good friend of mine had to stem off protein shakes due to his elevated enzymes. doc said it was due to too much protein! thats crazy what are his options?

DOC NEEDS TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER REASON, THATS ABSURD

 

[bulldog21]

DOC NEEDS TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER REASON, THATS ABSURD

Completely agree here....I could go into a huge rant about this type of diagnoiss but I won't...

 

[duceswild]

the crazy thing is the doc is a liver expert, at first i was i like thats just wrong but i read a few reports about liver enzymes and protein and how the break down of aminos can have a toxic effect on the body so this kinda swayed me into thinkin he may be right

 

[Tom]

incompetent

i've seen many medical experts over the last 20 years that i would consider incompetent....chalk up 1 more and time for another opinion or 2.

 

[b-boy]

people please, if you know your going to have blood work done please take a few days off from the gym before you go and have blood work. tearing of muscle tissue will cause you to have elevated liver enzymes on your blood work. I was amazed how lower mine was after taking 5 days off from lifting and going and having my blood work done again, it was a huge difference.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

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the crazy thing is the doc is a liver expert, at first i was i like thats just wrong but i read a few reports about liver enzymes and protein and how the break down of aminos can have a toxic effect on the body so this kinda swayed me into thinkin he may be right

A LIVER EXPERT? MY DOC ACTUALLY HAD A LIVER TRANSPLANT.......THATS WHAT I CALL AN EXPERT.......CHECK IT OUT MORE.

 

[bulldog21]

people please, if you know your going to have blood work done please take a few days off from the gym before you go and have blood work. tearing of muscle tissue will cause you to have elevated liver enzymes on your blood work. I was amazed how lower mine was after taking 5 days off from lifting and going and having my blood work done again, it was a huge difference.

Exaclty. So why did the doctor ask him if he has been active the last couple of days?

My doctor didn't think of that the first time They came back like that 2.5 years ago. Ever since then my values have been perfect.

 

[Tom]

people please, if you know your going to have blood work done please take a few days off from the gym before you go and have blood work. tearing of muscle tissue will cause you to have elevated liver enzymes on your blood work. I was amazed how lower mine was after taking 5 days off from lifting and going and having my blood work done again, it was a huge difference.

Good info there b-boy....most docs are clueless when dealing with the abnormalities that arise from hard training and supplementation. You have to take some initiative and cover your own butt by learning how this lifestyle can affect your lab values.

 

[ghostdog128]

Actually YES. Extremely high protein intake can negatively affect liver and kidney values, but he'd have to be taking in alot. On the the order of 500grams or more depending on his bodyweight for a decent length of time. Most likely due to training immediately (within 48 hours) before blood work.

I ALWAYS have protein in my urine and have for years. It's from me not taking time off before my blood work, but my other renal values have always been normal so I don't worry about it. I know what it is and I've had to educate my doctor on it, even though it's right there in the medical literature.

 

[duceswild]

i just dont get it i just spoke to my friend again and he said hes a specialist on internal shit like liver kidneys etc. and now hes spooked says hes gonna stray off the protein, unbelievable. so he asked me what else he could take so phil expect a large order from me real soon

 

[PHIL HERNON]

HEY

Actually YES. Extremely high protein intake can negatively affect liver and kidney values, but he'd have to be taking in alot. On the the order of 500grams or more depending on his bodyweight for a decent length of time. Most likely due to training immediately (within 48 hours) before blood work.

I ALWAYS have protein in my urine and have for years. It's from me not taking time off before my blood work, but my other renal values have always been normal so I don't worry about it. I know what it is and I've had to educate my doctor on it, even though it's right there in the medical literature.

ALWAYS PROTEIN IN YOUR URINE? THAT IS NOT FROM TIME OFF......YOU HAVE SOME KIDNEY ISSUES. SHOW ME THE STUDIES ON THE CORRELATION BETWEEN HIGH PROTEIN INTAKE AND HIGH LIVER ENZYME COUNTS AND I WILL BELIEVE YOU.

 

[Massive G]

I think ghost is referring to the fact that there is protein in the urine after exercise. I have read countless articles on it (had one Dante linked but lost it) even in children and curious by what mechanism this happens. I think the proteins were of the glomerular type.
I have been to 2 nephrologists and they were freaking out at one test I did wihich came out at 4 grams per 24 hrs. I told them I had trained the night before. We redid the test twice because they didn't believe the first retest which came back trace when I took 3 days off. Every situation is different, I have seen my renal function decline in the past three years as I get blood pulled 5-6 times a year and always at my baseline level no training for 3 days, well hydrated, off all supplements. I still eat a normal high protein 8 times a day diet though.
Wasn't there another guy on here that calimed his liver enzymes were raised from protein intake? Dave_19??

 

[Big Bapper]

Exaclty. So why did the doctor ask him if he has been active the last couple of days?

My doctor didn't think of that the first time They came back like that 2.5 years ago. Ever since then my values have been perfect.

Glad to have you back Bro.

 

[ghostdog128]

ALWAYS PROTEIN IN YOUR URINE? THAT IS NOT FROM TIME OFF......YOU HAVE SOME KIDNEY ISSUES. SHOW ME THE STUDIES ON THE CORRELATION BETWEEN HIGH PROTEIN INTAKE AND HIGH LIVER ENZYME COUNTS AND I WILL BELIEVE YOU.

Studies? why do I have to show you studies? It's basic medical knowledge that the breakdown of protein and protein metabolism cause byproducts that have to be filtered by both the kidneys and liver. Why is it unconceivable to presume some people's livers over time will develop high values from the excess load on them. If I recall even Dante says to take time off from high protein intake to ease the load on the liver.

From someone that always wants studies, show me studies that prove LBA's are as effective as you say, and not ones sponsered by the company that produces them. Not trying to be a dick Phil but sometimes you don't know it all.

 

[ghostdog128]

I think ghost is referring to the fact that there is protein in the urine after exercise.

Yes that's what I was referring to. I have had test done after a week off and have had no protein in my urine. So I know that when I do have it there it's from not taking time off.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

WELL

Studies? why do I have to show you studies? It's basic medical knowledge that the breakdown of protein and protein metabolism cause byproducts that have to be filtered by both the kidneys and liver. Why is it unconceivable to presume some people's livers over time will develop high values from the excess load on them. If I recall even Dante says to take time off from high protein intake to ease the load on the liver.

From someone that always wants studies, show me studies that prove LBA's are as effective as you say, and not ones sponsered by the company that produces them. Not trying to be a dick Phil but sometimes you don't know it all.

I AM NOT TRYING TO BE A DICK EITHER, BUT IF WEIGHT TRAINING CAUSES PROTEIN IN THE URINE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND A STUDY ON IT FAIRLY EASILY. I NEVER SAID I KNOW IT ALL........BUT I DO KNOW WHEN I HEAR SOMETHING THAT IS NONSENSE. ......AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

YES

I think ghost is referring to the fact that there is protein in the urine after exercise. I have read countless articles on it (had one Dante linked but lost it) even in children and curious by what mechanism this happens. I think the proteins were of the glomerular type.
I have been to 2 nephrologists and they were freaking out at one test I did wihich came out at 4 grams per 24 hrs. I told them I had trained the night before. We redid the test twice because they didn't believe the first retest which came back trace when I took 3 days off. Every situation is different, I have seen my renal function decline in the past three years as I get blood pulled 5-6 times a year and always at my baseline level no training for 3 days, well hydrated, off all supplements. I still eat a normal high protein 8 times a day diet though.
Wasn't there another guy on here that calimed his liver enzymes were raised from protein intake? Dave_19??

THAT HAPPENED TO ME ALSO BUT IT WAS FROM NOT REFRIGERATING THE TEST ONCE AND THE NEXT TIME THERE WAS SPERM IN THE SAMPLE.