How many can DeadLift 405@160lbs?

[TooPowerful4u]

Let alone doing it at 15yrs old? ok so its a 3/4 DL, but it was below the knees and started from the bottom so it was dead weight. I think im a good trainer hehe everyone in the gym calls him meathead junior....yes, thats my annoying voice...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mulNqSZT7xQ

 

[qwerty_uk]

not bad more like 1/2 DL though

 

[ironfreak83]

thats called a rack pull, but i cannot say that i am not at least a little bit impressed. good job man.

 

[maldorf]

Yeah, id say that is a pretty good feat for his size and age. Id like to see what he could manage for a full dead.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

Yeah, id say that is a pretty good feat for his size and age. Id like to see what he could manage for a full dead.

275 didn't get it on film tho, il get 315 when he gets it we do those on a separate day with hams and legs

Not bad considering hes on whey and eating right and has gone from a 275 rack pull/185 DL to 405/275 in 2 months...

 

[maldorf]

275 didn't get it on film tho, il get 315 when he gets it we do those on a separate day with hams and legs

Not bad considering hes on whey and eating right and has gone from a 275 rack pull/185 DL to 405/275 in 2 months...

yeah, those were the good ole days! Wish we could gain like that forever. I remember thinking when I was 18 and had been lifting 2 years that I would look like Lee Haney in another 5 or 6 years, lol. I guess if the growth did continue like that forever a lot of us would look that good.
How much lean mass do you think he has put on since he started? I was able to go from 140lbs to 185 lbs in 2 years when I graduated at age 18 just eating good etc. Sounds like hes going at that rate or faster.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

yeah, those were the good ole days! Wish we could gain like that forever. I remember thinking when I was 18 and had been lifting 2 years that I would look like Lee Haney in another 5 or 6 years, lol. I guess if the growth did continue like that forever a lot of us would look that good.
How much lean mass do you think he has put on since he started? I was able to go from 140lbs to 185 lbs in 2 years when I graduated at age 18 just eating good etc. Sounds like hes going at that rate or faster.

Well keep in mind hes 15, 16 in January. Dont even think his T levels have started peaking yet. We have been focusing on power and strength for wrestling (hes a state ranked NJ wrestler as a sophomore), and he also just got done with meniscus surgery in June. He put on some bodyfat and started the gym at about 160. Hes 162 now and alot leaner, so im GUESSING maybe 4-5lbs in the last 2 months? As you said beginner results.. but honestly i talked to alot of coached and 365(his best from 2 weeks ago) is very out of the ordinary for his weight let alone age. Now he hit 405 and were shooting for a 315 deadlift x 2-3 reps and 405x3-4 reps before the season hits in 2 months.

 

[Trapster]

v impressive for 15!!!

 

[bigbadasian]

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OUCH! that looked painful. very strong indeed. hes in sports right? is he doing a lot of conditioning along with weights as well?

 

[TooPowerful4u]

OUCH! that looked painful. very strong indeed. hes in sports right? is he doing a lot of conditioning along with weights as well?

He will be. Conditioning is his weak point (as was always mine), but i plan to correct that this year. Iv been leading him through crazy leg workouts, teaching him to endure pain and PUSH through muscular pain, as well as push when you are out of breathe with high rep squats, barbell lunges, etc.... i guess you could say MENTAL as well as physical training. Hes looking for a NJ state championship this year (one of the toughest states in the country for wrestling, one of 3 that have ONE state champ per weight!) and im doing all i can to help him get it. Also keep in mind he maintains a 3.5 in AP classes

Hes more important to me than anything in this world, so nothing makes me happier than his success

 

[flexmaster]

TP4U

get him doing cleans and power cleans as well...if you can show him good form. as you and i both know from years of wrestling, its a very EXPLOSIVE sport (expecially in the 130-171 weighclasses). the DL is a great way for him to build overall brute strength and size but if he can take that strength and translate it into explosiveness he will be a force to be reckoned with! i think the DL is a little to slow of a movement for most sport specific training. but in a work capacity program like he is probably on right now its a great lift!

 

[jawbreakerkid]

It's pretty cool that you have taken him under your wing.

 

[flexmaster]

He will be. Conditioning is his weak point (as was always mine), but i plan to correct that this year. Iv been leading him through crazy leg workouts, teaching him to endure pain and PUSH through muscular pain, as well as push when you are out of breathe with high rep squats, barbell lunges, etc.... i guess you could say MENTAL as well as physical training. Hes looking for a NJ state championship this year (one of the toughest states in the country for wrestling, one of 3 that have ONE state champ per weight!) and im doing all i can to help him get it. Also keep in mind he maintains a 3.5 in AP classes

Hes more important to me than anything in this world, so nothing makes me happier than his success

AWESOME! here's a day i like to use with a wrestler i train...give this a try:
active warmup and core
cleans 4x5
front squats 4x3
paired with
horizontal abduction 3x12
push press 3x6
paired with
pullups 3x10
weighted low back extension 3x12 (really focusing on squeezing the glutes)
paired with
3 x slide board for 1 min.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

I plan to throw in explosive movements soon. Hes only been at it for 2 months and the muscles around his knee arent back to 100% development yet, so i dont want to "jerk" any of his joints yet. That is the reason for the slow controlled movements. I had already previously outlined a plan for him .....

SPLIT
Back(pullups, seated rows or Tbars, Rack Deadlift or Full Deadlift)
Chest, arms (beach muscle day, hey hes young n wants chicks haha)
OFF
Explosive/Leg Day
OFF
Repeat

Stretch (entire body)
Core Warmup (forgot that one)
Power Cleans 3 sets
Platform Jumps (start with a small platform, work up to jumping on to the small platform, down to the ground, then immediately onto a higher platform in front of it)
Stiff Leg Deadlifts 4 sets 8-12 rep range
DEEP Leg Press or DEEP Squats 4 sets 8-12 rep range
then of course finnish with one 50 rep squat set hehe and work on that mental toughness!

Eventually throw in sprints on their own day for quickness and explosiveness as well as conditioning as the season approaches

 

[maldorf]

sounds like a kid that is mature for his age. hes willing to work very hard to achieve what he wants, especially considering he had that knee surgery. Sounds like he bounced right back after that. Must be nice to be training someone young and eager like that. I can see why you enjoy it so much.

 

[buffbabeca]

good video.. i especially like the other video you have posted.... is that you doing walking lunges?????

 

[Conan21]

your little brother looks identical to you, just younger

strong pull there as well

 

[flexmaster]

I plan to throw in explosive movements soon. Hes only been at it for 2 months and the muscles around his knee arent back to 100% development yet, so i dont want to "jerk" any of his joints yet. That is the reason for the slow controlled movements. I had already previously outlined a plan for him .....

SPLIT
Back(pullups, seated rows or Tbars, Rack Deadlift or Full Deadlift)
Chest, arms (beach muscle day, hey hes young n wants chicks haha)
OFF
Explosive/Leg Day
OFF
Repeat

Stretch (entire body)
Core Warmup (forgot that one)
Power Cleans 3 sets
Platform Jumps (start with a small platform, work up to jumping on to the small platform, down to the ground, then immediately onto a higher platform in front of it)
Stiff Leg Deadlifts 4 sets 8-12 rep range
DEEP Leg Press or DEEP Squats 4 sets 8-12 rep range
then of course finnish with one 50 rep squat set hehe and work on that mental toughness!

Eventually throw in sprints on their own day for quickness and explosiveness as well as conditioning as the season approaches

nice, a few more plyo's that i like to do personally are tuck jumps and pike jumps...and something i have my client do on top of those two are alternate split squat jumps. on a plyo day i like to do this:

3x10 tuck jumps with 1:05 rest
3x8 pike jumps with 1:05 rest
3x12 (so 6 each leg) alt. split squat jumps with 1:05 rest
then i do a tuck jump, pike jump, toe touch combo for 2x8 but this would be WAY to advanced for him at this point.
dont forget to really focus on a strong core and also some shoulder prehab (horizontal abduction, inverted rows, pullups, ext. rotation) exercises for him. i like to do about 4 exercises in the core work before we train and twice a week we do weighted core work (either some kind of decline rotational work, or decline sit ups with medicine balls...using NO momentum from swinging the arms, or really long planks.) i would try to keep him off of machines as much as possible simply for the fact that they only use one plane of motion, which he will never be in while wrestling. maybe substitute the leg press for lunges? i like lunges for all sports, especially wrestling...i doubt i can find a better exercise that mimics finishing a takedown than a lunge!

 

[finephysique]

I did 395 in competition in the under 70 kilo class (under 154 lbs) when I mwas 17. There were guys lifting a lot more than that too.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

I did 395 in competition in the under 70 kilo class (under 154 lbs) when I mwas 17. There were guys lifting a lot more than that too.

Nice. Hes got 1.5yrs until hes 17, so maybe we can get him around that range by then... who knows...my fam has always had strong hips... i used to power clean 245 (the ONLY lifting i did) for reps when i was 145 my senior year.