The argument about not hitting front delts is that heavy presses blow up front delts anyway. Yet people say still hit rear delts... makes no sense to me. Same logic would mean: skip rear delts too, heavy rows got u covered.
i mean.... not really :/
The argument about not hitting front delts is that heavy presses blow up front delts anyway. Yet people say still hit rear delts... makes no sense to me. Same logic would mean: skip rear delts too, heavy rows got u covered.
Yes a many timesDid you ever seen someone who smash military press with 225 on barbell for reps with small shoulders?
This.Shoulders are one of if not my best body part. I will be the first to say that they are good because I have always done heavy controlled and explosive presses.
If you’re talking detail and lines sure side lat raises and chest movements will suffice, but if you want big delts I think presses are a must at some stage along the way.
I also just love heavy pressing movements though. Lol
I do this as well. I am not a mass beast you all know, but I don’t over reach either. Stick to a comfortable weight I can control through the entire movementLove overhead BB/DB presses! They’re my starting exercise when working shoulders/traps. I prefer seated over standing though. Unless I suffer some sort of shoulder injury they’ll always be a staple.
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Yes when you get I was ego lifting and injured myself! No longer as you stated go behind, deep , or heavy^^^i'v always incorporated 1 "OHP" exercise on shoulder day
..i don't do them "behind-the-head" anymore ..& i don't go as deep ←esp heavy
^^^YES ..over-all density
+it's a compound-movement ..it benefits more then just shoulders
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Pressing for Hypertrophy:
Push press: one of the better tricep overload movements. Risk/reward depends on OH stability.
BTN Klokov presses……murders your delts and most have enough mobility to pull this off.
My favorite, Muscle clean and press. Pretend you are back in junior high school trying to power clean. Monkey fuck the bar to your chest and then strict press. Come
Down, then slowly lower the weight controlled to the hang position. (Use straps). You want a balance of continuous motion trying use as little body English or explosiveness out of the bottom.
It just wrecks the whole delt. Use it last exercise. So I usually go rear delt fly, laterals of some sort, then MCNP. Stay strict for 2-3 sets. On your last set, add a little English to whatever point fails first. Keep going, take a few breaths, rep out some more with a little more English. (Don’t get retarded sloppy). It’s like a delt widowmaker.
I use to have that problem too for very long time but since I started doing them half way down and half way up it hit my shoulders super hard. But I hardly get to do them because my gym is huge but with that come more people. So to find a smith machine open is like hitting the lotto. But when I do I do front and behind press and my shoulders blow upThe only thing that benefits when I overhead press is my triceps.
I’m not really seeing how any of these would be good for hypertrophy honestly when put against something just like a standard fixed machine seated shoulder press.Pressing for Hypertrophy:
Push press: one of the better tricep overload movements. Risk/reward depends on OH stability.
BTN Klokov presses……murders your delts and most have enough mobility to pull this off.
My favorite, Muscle clean and press. Pretend you are back in junior high school trying to power clean. Monkey fuck the bar to your chest and then strict press. Come
Down, then slowly lower the weight controlled to the hang position. (Use straps). You want a balance of continuous motion trying use as little body English or explosiveness out of the bottom
I’m not really seeing how any of these would be good for hypertrophy honestly when put against something just like a standard fixed machine seated shoulder press.
I use to have that problem too for very long time but since I started doing them half way down and half way up it hit my shoulders super hard. But I hardly get to do them because my gym is huge but with that come more people. So to find a smith machine open is like hitting the lotto. But when I do I do front and behind press and my shoulders blow up
I haven’t seen anyone that presses 315 overhead for reps w small shoulders though.Did you ever seen someone who smash military press with 225 on barbell for reps with small shoulders?
Same…kind of disappointing because OHP had become kind of a pet lift. DB OHP is so fun, and I’d gotten up to using the 150s at peak strength.To be honest, even with a shit L shoulder, I kept some sort of pressing (as long as it wasn’t painful) in for a long time. Getting to that 3.5 or 4 plates on a smith machine pretty regularly. But upon taking that out and just increase my volume pretty heavily on diff laterals, my shoulder growth has been much better. I’m in the camp of “all pressing hits your front delts pretty hard” camp, but if you enjoy them (like I did) do em. But once pain and recovery got too much, volume SEEMS to be a great driver for shoulder growth. I know JM always believed shoulders needed to get hit with a ton of sets (rear and lateral delts).