How many of you still 'Overhead press' and see a benefit?

[svenrpb]

Based on this topic I came across: https://www.professionalmuscle.com/...ds-for-delts-or-have-u-abandoned-them.121598/

Do you still do overhead presses and do you see a benefit? Or do you just stick to raises for shoulders and let chestpresses build the shoulder?

 

[3BILLS]

I do standing ohp atleast once a week.
I also do landmine presses or if the gym has one a Viking press

I do not have the greatest shoulders but I do them because I like them

 

[Dumbbell2008]

To get big delts, most of the focus should be rear delts + side delts. Front delt gets hit when doing pressing for chest so no need to add shoulder presses. I mean if you enjoy it, do it. But you can build big round delts without them.

 

[madg]

I never do press for delt

Only laterals

Since i changed to this my delt changed totally

 

[bbxtreme]

Shoulders are one of if not my best body part. I will be the first to say that they are good because I have always done heavy controlled and explosive presses.

If you’re talking detail and lines sure side lat raises and chest movements will suffice, but if you want big delts I think presses are a must at some stage along the way.

I also just love heavy pressing movements though. Lol

 

[Bleed]

The only thing that benefits when I overhead press is my triceps.

 

[RoughriderOne]

I throw them in occasionally but I tend to follow the John Meadows school if thought: hit side and rear delts if you want big, full shoulders. I’ve made great strides doing this and don’t see any reason to change things up.

 

[cage99]

Love overhead BB/DB presses! They’re my starting exercise when working shoulders/traps. I prefer seated over standing though. Unless I suffer some sort of shoulder injury they’ll always be a staple.

Cage

 

[pistonpump]

I love them but unfortunately most ohp movementa cause me pain. Smith and certain machine press are ok but I just wish I didn't have the shoulder pain doing them. They have benefit imo but shoulder health is key once that starts going say bye bye presses

 

[SOUR DIESEL]

Do you still do overhead presses

^^^i'v always incorporated 1 "OHP" exercise on shoulder day

..i don't do them "behind-the-head" anymore ..& i don't go as deep ←esp heavy

and do you see a benefit?

^^^YES ..over-all density
+it's a compound-movement ..it benefits more then just shoulders

.

 

[max_rep]

i dont do at all. i just do laterals

 

[Swifto]

I like to overhead press on the smith. Delts usually has at least one overhead and then iso work (lateral raise).

 

[TheOtherOne55]

To be honest, even with a shit L shoulder, I kept some sort of pressing (as long as it wasn’t painful) in for a long time. Getting to that 3.5 or 4 plates on a smith machine pretty regularly. But upon taking that out and just increase my volume pretty heavily on diff laterals, my shoulder growth has been much better. I’m in the camp of “all pressing hits your front delts pretty hard” camp, but if you enjoy them (like I did) do em. But once pain and recovery got too much, volume SEEMS to be a great driver for shoulder growth. I know JM always believed shoulders needed to get hit with a ton of sets (rear and lateral delts).

 

[Fleezy]

To be honest, even with a shit L shoulder, I kept some sort of pressing (as long as it wasn’t painful) in for a long time. Getting to that 3.5 or 4 plates on a smith machine pretty regularly. But upon taking that out and just increase my volume pretty heavily on diff laterals, my shoulder growth has been much better. I’m in the camp of “all pressing hits your front delts pretty hard” camp, but if you enjoy them (like I did) do em. But once pain and recovery got too much, volume SEEMS to be a great driver for shoulder growth. I know JM always believed shoulders needed to get hit with a ton of sets (rear and lateral delts).

how many work sets of laterals do you do


rear delt laterals?

 

[buck]

I mostly quit doing over head presses regularly in my 40's. And my shoulders didn't notice. When i watch most people they do not get much delt activation when they are doing them. As they only bring their elbows down to shoulder level then press back up. Letting the tri's and traps do the majority of the work.

 

[Flocci]

I never really found that presses did much for my delts in general, but the past months ive been experimenting with adding in presses 2x a week for 2-3 sets of 6-12 on average. They numbers are progressing well but im not sure if im seeing much hypertrophy from it, time will tell though.

What made my delts improve the most was focusing on cable and machine lateral raises, y raises, upright rows and rear delt flyes, high rows and facepulls. front raises i find useless and only gives me front delt pain after a few weeks.

 

[LK3]

always start shoulder work with some sort of press.
bdell seated, smith seated, smith standing.
standing i got from a john meadows video years ago, light weight, explode up and super slow controlled negative. gotta keep shoulders up and elbows in front not to the side. the idea is to take out triceps but kind of squeeze inner upper chest at the top, never lock out elbows, constant tension on the delts. higher rep ranges too 20+.

 

[juiceball44]

I do a neutral grip machine shoulder press as my first press exercise on my push day. I slide my butt forward and arch my chest up to try to target the very top of the upper chest but still feel it in the delts. I’ve had shoulder pain for a long time and this is the best for me personally I can’t go wide or flare elbows out on any press

 

[WeakFNG]

I do an overhead press every push day. I have for a long time. Though I don't touch the weight I used to, I still find it beneficial for me.

I do a mix between dumbbell and barbell press. Every few weeks I will do what my old throwing coach called a "jerk" press. Hahaha. Essentially the "jerk" part of the clean and jerk.

As long as the left shoulder keep cooperating I will keep this up.

 

[valdosta]

not really worth it for growth. people say hit side and rear delts for big shoulders

The argument about not hitting front delts is that heavy presses blow up front delts anyway. Yet people say still hit rear delts... makes no sense to me. Same logic would mean: skip rear delts too, heavy rows got u covered.

And thats the logic i follow. People act like my rear delts are freakishly overdeveloped even though I never train them. heavy rows and heavy presses should have everything but side delts covered