If you could start over...

[Sesshomaru]

What kind of changes would you have made to your first three cycles knowing what you know now? It could be anything from dosages, compounds, cycle lengths, etc. And why would you make those decisions?

 

[HUTCH]

I woulda run my first one longer...I think that is why people lose so much after their first cycle because they add so much weight and muscle so quick that the body cant adapt after only 12 weeks...

 

[BrooklynBB]

I woulda run my first one longer...I think that is why people lose so much after their first cycle because they add so much weight and muscle so quick that the body cant adapt after only 12 weeks...

So how long would you have run it then? And WHAT would you have run? Your input means alot Hutch..

 

[Nssca]

I dont think the longevity of a cycle determines its success. Its well know that after 12-16 weeks you get diminishing returns unless you increase the dosages. I think the short intense cycles with bridging small amounts between is more productive and healthier. and the other thing is the multiple drug cycles. From the pros Ive talked to... They dont use 4 and 5 different things. most use high amounts of test and one other thing. Anything else is used to dial in for a show.

 

[IBBAdmin]

If I could start over, lol I wouldnt have never lifted a weight or did a cycle

Why you ask ?

My yougest brother and I were identical in body types,, He never trained a day and he is about 200 with abs showing and he eats tons of junk food. Me I am dieting down for a show and started at 306 lbs.. now 273 as of this morning. It never ends...lol...

 

[Big Bapper]

intresting

I dont think the longevity of a cycle determines its success. Its well know that after 12-16 weeks you get diminishing returns unless you increase the dosages. I think the short intense cycles with bridging small amounts between is more productive and healthier. and the other thing is the multiple drug cycles. From the pros Ive talked to... They dont use 4 and 5 different things. most use high amounts of test and one other thing. Anything else is used to dial in for a show.

Good post DaRooster.

 

[HUTCH]

So how long would you have run it then? And WHAT would you have run? Your input means alot Hutch..

Well I ran t400, dbol, and deca but I woulda switched the Deca for EQ, cuz I couldnt go over 300mgs of deca other wise it was by bye sex life..I would have ran the cycle for the normal twelve then just use the Test for about 6 more weeks after that..so a total of 18 weeks on..

 

[elvisman99]

I would like to choke the damn guy at the gym who sold me a bottle of Cyp. for 300 bucks when i was 19 . lol

But i would of done longer acting esters because when i did the shorter acting ones like Supension, Drol, or Tren i would always get injured, whether it be cramps, shoulder injuries, elbow pain. I came to realize that what works best for me is slow gradual gains with moderte amounts of test and EQ are my choice but i recently used some drol and tren back in April and igot so strong so fast i wound up injuring my shoulder and banging up my wrist.

 

[BigMatt]

Havent run anything yet.

If i ever going to be doing my first one it will be:

Test Enanthate
500MG-2 250mg Shot per week Monday,Thursday
1-14 week
PCT

Simple,1 compound.

No bullshit.

 

[Ashop]

Keeping things simple in moderate doses.

 

[BrooklynBB]

Well I ran t400, dbol, and deca but I woulda switched the Deca for EQ, cuz I couldnt go over 300mgs of deca other wise it was by bye sex life..I would have ran the cycle for the normal twelve then just use the Test for about 6 more weeks after that..so a total of 18 weeks on..

t400 = enanthate? And how much EQ / Dbol? Hypothetical...

 

[norm1220]

If I was to do my first cycle over again it would have been longer. I was on for a year and a half and I should have just stayed on and went after my dreams instead of getting married and trying to be Mr. Normal.

I made the mistake of marrying a cop (ex-wife) and we figured that my stash of juice was going to jepordise her career, so I quit juicing, got a real job, and didn't walk back into a gym for damn near 4 years. Talk about wasted time... BTW- her 'career' lasted all of 10 months before she quit.

 

[Big Bapper]

That sucks Bro.

 

[Dave_19]

t400 = enanthate? And how much EQ / Dbol? Hypothetical...

T400 is a blend of cyp/enath/prop, if im not mistaking denkall claims its 25mg/prop and some where in teh 180 ranges for cyp and enath both. From what I have heard in the past though its rated at only 330-350mg/ml.

 

[amse]

i would have added more test and taken better care of my nutrition and workouts

i was yourger and stupid to let the gear do all the work

 

[swervedriver]

If I could change anything about my first cycle, I would have upped the test to around 600mg (brovel T-200) and threw in some eq at 600mg and not messed with the dbol (reforvit b)... I did 400mg of test and 25mg of that nasty reforvit a day...
Also, knowing what I know now I would have worried more about my diet so I could have maximized my initial growth... And much like elvis, I wouldn't have paid 150 bucks a bottle for T-200... That is what happens when you are young and dumb...

 

[HUTCH]

t400 = enanthate? And how much EQ / Dbol? Hypothetical...

I ran 30mgs a day of dbol...If I woulda done EQ I wouldve ran 400mg a week..

 

[BrooklynBB]

I ran 30mgs a day of dbol...If I woulda done EQ I wouldve ran 400mg a week..

What's your feelings on Deca? (Thanks for answering all the questions, by the way)

 

[W8killa]

i would have done non-aromatizing steroids to avoid the stretch marks i got from having a lot of water retention. its the only of my lasting sides.

 

[HUTCH]

What's your feelings on Deca? (Thanks for answering all the questions, by the way)

I only did 300 mgs a week but I did get big put on 28 lbs..held lots of water too, but nothing to crazy...I personally like EQ better now that I have tried them both..