is using aas a "relapse" for the "recovering addict"??

[s.norman]

i am a recovering addict...imo using aas is not a relapse...when i cycle i do not feel euphoric, bottom line...in fact i cannot tell the difference from being ON or OFF...except inc libido..i feel the same on or off w/ the exception of inc sex drive..
what are your opinions??

 

[Krom]

Some would say so, but then I know people who use AAS only (no alcohol or rec drugs) and are quite active in the program.

 

[kid1dakota]

I actually tried to do some research on this awhile back.I found nothing but opinions of course,but some said it was trading one class of drugs for another.Some said no because AAS were not physically addicting.

Some on here have said they can't stop and laugh when they hear other people say "I'm going to do one cycle and stop" because they know that almost never happens.

So mixed opinions and only that opinions.

 

[mgngb]

I actually tried to do some research on this awhile back.I found nothing but opinions of course,but some said it was trading one class of drugs for another.Some said no because AAS were not physically addicting.

Some on here have said they can't stop and laugh when they hear other people say "I'm going to do one cycle and stop" because they know that almost never happens.

So mixed opinions and only that opinions.

totally agree

 

[njpooldude]

IMO... NOWAY IN HELL DID YOU RELAPSE DUDE.. Ive been clean over 4 years now and juice does NOT alter your mind or mood like REC drugs do. Juice also does not make you steal to support your habbit...

I take a little test each week, once in a while some var or tbol, run a bussiness, and pay my bills just fine.. living a positive life these days... That shit would never happen if i was still gettin high every 2 hours...

Your clean dude...dont sweat it... once you start sniffin lines, or whatever that your not clean

DONOT STARTIN SNIFFIN LINES OR POPPIN PAINPILLS!!!!!!!!

 

[DrivingForward]

I second that one.

AAS isnt a rec drug. Its a positive and delayed gratification device. Stay clean, lift iron, use AAS responsibly.

Hang in there brother.

 

[ds44]

i was an addict for 5 or 6 years rehab twice, now clean for 17 years...My situation is a little weird i drink maybe twice a year or less special occasions pinic's etc...., but i have never relapsed to drugs, oh i have run many cycles.... I think AAS does cause some mood swings but so does dieting, that just my opinion.

 

[samiam]

i think it's different for differnt people.

I also think it depends on the nature of your previous addiction. Was it addiction to a certain chemical or feeling? for some people a chemical dependancy is their issue - where they need some kind of chemical or drug to function.

The danger for me with AAS is i start needing help sleeping at night - then I need something to wake me up the next morning - something to help with libido at times, something else to calm my mood,etc, etc etc.

Just be careful.

also another comment I would make is that a relapse could be anythign you had said you were going to avioid. If you had said no AAS and then used then it might be a relapse. If you had never tried to stay away from them and make an educated sane decision to use them than that is a whole different thing then using in spite of a desire/decision not to use them.

 

[ronnie0072]

I second that one.

AAS isnt a rec drug. Its a positive and delayed gratification device. Stay clean, lift iron, use AAS responsibly.

Hang in there brother.

^ This. Useing aas you are moving in the complete oposite direction as rec drugs. Also the instant gratification vs delayed goal orientated gratification is a BIG difference. I got hemed up for a while with painkillers but everything in my life is organized and goal orientated when I am bangin the iron. Then add a proper cycle in there every once in a while and its like I have 5 things in mind. Work (gettin there on time and being productive), sleep, sex, eating/food, and the gym.

 

[1love]

Just my opinion, Addicts use for many reasons and a lot of them have self-esteem issues on top of it. So I think it is very likely a recovering addict could use aas as a crutch for their self happiness issues. Also it's been known that addicts who have injected drugs get caught up in the routine as much as the high itself. Injecting aas and taken them orally is a routine, no? I think it can be a fine line for some (I said for some, not all). And if you question it, then you have to look hard at the reasons why you are inhancing your body as you did when you abused it with rec. drugs. Love who you are first and room for improvement can be a good thing, for the right reasons. With that said I would much rather have someone driving next to me on aas then high on drugs. And anyone trying to improve themselves or lead a healthy and happy lifestyle is okay in my book. No disrespect intended to anyone as I do believe addiction is a disease, and it can be treated.

 

[lennoxchi]

i am a recovering addict...imo using aas is not a relapse...when i cycle i do not feel euphoric, bottom line...in fact i cannot tell the difference from being ON or OFF...except inc libido..i feel the same on or off w/ the exception of inc sex drive..
what are your opinions??

ah, no. why would you think that? AAS....cocaine, heroin, alcohol...etc. totally different things here. it's mood and mind atltering substances that we're talking about.

 

[1love]

To answer the question....no, I wouldn't consider it a relapse. But it is possible to swap one addiction for another.

 

[Bilbo]

Yes its a relapse bro. You are still drug seeking and using AAS to change the way you look so you can change the way you feel. ITs not going to work. Its all addict behavior. Bodybuilding is probably the worse hobby to develop as a recovering addict because it is an endeavor rooted in excess.

Eat more food. Lift heavier weight. Use more drugs.

Where does it end? If you are a recovering addict and want to change your lifestyle to a healthier one, then great.

Just do it without drugs. There is nothing healthy about bodybuilding anyways.

If you need HRT and are under the care of a physician, then great. But if you are wanting to jump on steroids to help change the way you look, then you are diving right back into addiction my friend.

Rec drug or not, you are still trying to fuel your need to feel different then you feel now.

Good luck my friend.

 

[SantiagoMuscle]

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[Hdrider]

I battled with the same question 12 years ago when I did my first cycle.
I made the decision it was not a relapse and have thrived in recovery and bodybuilding. Bottom line: It's a decision you have to answer for yourself.
Good Lord willing 21 years 4/9

 

[s.norman]

i did the research alredi..i just wanted to get opinions on here...i have relapsed a few times since being in recovery...at those times when i felt like getting high, i copped drugs on a street corner to get instant gratification..i never went for my aas stash b/c i knew that wouldnt get me high...if they got me high i would have done a shot of suspension insted of a bag of weed...just my 2 cents

 

[carrierdome]

Im new to the program with just about a year sober. On HRT which my sponser thinks is a substitute for booze even though its prescribed. I dont buy into that.

He also wanted me to change my sobriety date because he saw liquid tylenol cough and cold in my cupboard and asked me if i took any since i was sober. I stated I did about 6 months ago when I had a nasty cold and had to work.

Getting shitfaced 7x week was my problem. Then again, my sponser is like AA police, lol.

 

[Bionic]

i did the research alredi..i just wanted to get opinions on here...i have relapsed a few times since being in recovery...at those times when i felt like getting high, i copped drugs on a street corner to get instant gratification..i never went for my aas stash b/c i knew that wouldnt get me high...if they got me high i would have done a shot of suspension insted of a bag of weed...just my 2 cents

You're in recovery for weed?

 

[harleyc]

Me, my brothers, and all my friends and workout partners are also are all clean now from rec drugs. (IMO) I think the AAS just take's the place of something else. it in the mind brother!!!

i am a recovering addict...imo using aas is not a relapse...when i cycle i do not feel euphoric, bottom line...in fact i cannot tell the difference from being ON or OFF...except inc libido..i feel the same on or off w/ the exception of inc sex drive..
what are your opinions??

 

[SIB88]

i wouldnt necessarily consider it a "relapse", but the program teaches you to not only not do drugs, but to live a "sober lifestyle"...so doing illegal drugs wether to get high or not really wouldnt be the "sober" thing to do i guess...