LIVER ADENOMA

[SOUR DIESEL]

►hey ..at least you looked-the-part

50mg of superdrol

^^^this one right here

have know a few guys that have had liver/gall problems running SD for too long
..not even necessarily as high as you either

i remember one ..pretty sure from this board
..IIRC he had been running something like 5mg SD ..but for a prolonged time
..along side of 750TEST (..again IIRC) ..prob with no AI (..but not 100% sure)
..ended with liver/gall problems ..got nasty ..required surgery

^^^didn't say that to fear-monger SUPERDROL
..it's a great AAS in it's proper place
..& our make-up ..& tolerances are highly individual

^^^that said it (..SD) is not adding 50mg of VAR for 12weeks
IMO; it's best place is for a short ride to break plateau ..or size barrier


TO EVERYBODY: ..SD is NOT a "No-Big-Deal" add-on
..even at low doses ..for prolonged periods
..& it's effects on the liver seem to be exacerbated by uncontrolled Estrogen
(..all you "No-AI-Guys" might want to take this into account when considering the addition of SD)

How much HGH have you used?

^^^great question ..& one that i meant to ask as well

..not so much as a "cause" ..but as a possible "potentiator"

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[stackdizzy]

Ahh yes

Not a single one

Very spooky and ominous

This is a little scary, what made you want to get an ultrasound? Like what did you tell/ask your Dr. And not to be rude but did you have to get a prior auth from your insurance or they just pick up the tab?

 

[Fleezy]

This is a little scary, what made you want to get an ultrasound? Like what did you tell/ask your Dr. And not to be rude but did you have to get a prior auth from your insurance or they just pick up the tab?

well in my other thread about having high ferritin, i wanted to see if i had NAFLD or any other liver abnormalities


truly, it's something that all people on aas should be doing once a year or so..

my doctor wrote down in my notes that i had right upper quadrant pain - though i dont remember if i told him that or not. i dont think that i did tbh

i think he just wrote the order because my liver enzymes were elevated

my insurance picked up the tab except the $50 copay... nbd




100% i would have not caught this if i had not randomly got the testing, it would have turned into cancer, and it would most likely have killed me.


idk if you all remember this fella named flexdurden (i came across his thread while i was searching the site for adenomas), but i would have gone through the exact same thing he did, and very likely would have had a very similar outcome

 

[Fleezy]

Looks like the adenoma may have not been estrogen dependent

I reckon it was the tren and the orals then

On a related note, directvip letro is legit

Estradiol under 50 while test is over 3,000

Impressive

 

[Doitagain]

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Looks like the adenoma may have not been estrogen dependent

I reckon it was the tren and the orals then

On a related note, directvip letro is legit

Estradiol under 50 while test is over 3,000

Impressive

All these years did you always push Test with proper E2 management?

 

[Fleezy]

All these years did you always push Test with proper E2 management?

No idea lol

Mainly just used a decent dose of test 800-1.2g and took a tab of letro eod

 

[luki7788]

No idea lol

Mainly just used a decent dose of test 800-1.2g and took a tab of letro eod

I've also been using letro as my main AI for many years
Aromasin is ok, but with testosterone doses of 1.5g+ in 80% of cases it cannot control aromatization

 

[Fleezy]

apparently this surgery is one of those "we'll get around to it eventually" - sort of things

i didn't have much faith in the medical system before.

this is certainly not helping

 

[bbxtreme]

apparently this surgery is one of those "we'll get around to it eventually" - sort of things

i didn't have much faith in the medical system before.

this is certainly not helping

Unless your doctor makes it “stat” then it will be weeks to months based on the surgeons schedule likely.

Most surgeons keep open emergency slots in their schedules for cases that come up that are life threatening.

In layman’s terms- your doctor will have to list it as life threatening or a priority if you want to get worked in any sooner most likely.

Unless you know someone or have excellent insurance/pay cash (half kidding). Lol

 

[Fleezy]

Most surgeons keep open emergency slots in their schedules for cases that come up that are life threatening.

what about cases that will become life threatening

 

[bbxtreme]

what about cases that will become life threatening

Yes that would constitute as a reason to get one of those slots.

I’ve seen both sides of this so think people need to be fair when approaching it.

But if you want in next week then you need to push on your doctor and the surgeon and let them know you feel it’s life threatening and is your top priority.

Just remember when you do this there is someone’s dad needing a liver surgery down the hall to survive. It’s a tough spot.

But I can tell you- the squeaky wheel gets the grease in these cases. So if you feel that way make it known to both doctors and they will very likely get you in asap.

Also you are young so will and should influence the priority as you aren’t at the end of your life based on medical guidelines and age.

 

[Jefe]

I’ve seen both sides of this so think people need to be fair when approaching it.

I’ve had a bunch of surgeries and it’s usually a month out.

I had one major life saving one that required a bunch of different specialties and I’m really glad they were available. I got to keep my arm and actually use it.

Maybe it’s better you’re not rushed in? You’re not totally fucked

 

[Fleezy]

I had one major life saving one that required a bunch of different specialties

how long did this take from diagnosis to procedure?

Maybe it’s better you’re not rushed in?

could you elaborate?

 

[Jefe]

Last was a hernia. Diagnosed in 3 seconds. Booked surgery 3 weeks out. Had to get ultrasound first to check gallbladder.

Joint surgery. Go see specialist. Sends to MRI about 3 weeks out. Then wait to go back to go specialist. Forgot how long. I guess people wait to get their scans. I’m in a rush. Then surgery is usually within a month of seeing the specialist after the scan.

And if they were rushing you, it would mean you’re a priority case. That’s bad lol

 

[Fleezy]

And if they were rushing you, it would mean you’re a priority case. That’s bad lol

well my main concern is that they are waiting for me to become a priority case


'well, he doesnt have cancer....yet'

weeks go by

'ok, now he does, bring him in'

 

[Jefe]

They’re just waiting to fit you in. J Lo can get it tomorrow, not fleezy. Patrick Mahommes can get in in a few days.

Normies like us have to wait our turn.

 

[cage99]

well my main concern is that they are waiting for me to become a priority case


'well, he doesnt have cancer....yet'

weeks go by

'ok, now he does, bring him in'

I had a cancer scare a few years back. Had a ~5cm tumor in my throat. ENT assumed it was cancerous due to its size and like a dumbass me waiting WAY TOO LONG to have it checked; plus I smoked.

From the initial visit, to scans, to actual surgery was 3.5 weeks.

Cage

 

[Fleezy]

I had a cancer scare a few years back. Had a ~5cm tumor in my throat. ENT assumed it was cancerous due to its size and like a dumbass me waiting WAY TOO LONG to have it checked; plus I smoked.

From the initial visit, to scans, to actual surgery was 3.5 weeks.

Cage

how long from the scans to the surgery?

 

[cage99]

how long from the scans to the surgery?

I wanna say 2.5 weeks…. I wasn’t in a hurry to hear I had stage 4 throat cancer. I wanna say I could have gotten the surgery done earlier but didn’t.

Cage

 

[Fleezy]

in reviewing gotgame's posts (i really wish he still posted here), it would appear that my subtype of adenoma was not estrogen-related....rather, it was androgen-related

i would advise anyone using tren to seriously think about what they are doing, and consider whether or not the use is worth the potential risks..



if you are sat there thinking 'this won't happen to me'... just know that i thought the exact same thing


and now, i am apparently at the mercy of medical practitioners who could give a shit..