Losing gains.....help!!!!

[neverbigenuf]

I could use some help from the experienced guys. I'm currently coming off cycle and in addition to outside circumstances I am losing the hard earned gains! Just a background I am a hard gainer by genes, I went into the Air Force at 5'11" 167lbs! Now through diet and supplements I have earned my way up to 225lbs. I'm coming off cycle, about to start PCT and am losing weight. In addition to coming off I had a baby boy two weeks ago and have lost 10lbs through not being able to eat and train properly. I am also battling a herniated disk pushing on a nerve so I can hardly do legs much less blast them as needed. I have to use high reps/low weight, certain exercises only if I want to walk the next day. My appetite has disappeared so I tried starting the injectable b12 Synthamine or whichever the appetite enhancer is called. I still have no hunger. I know to some of you bigger guys 10lbs doesn't make or break you but for a hard gainer its a real kick in the nuts. I JUST stopped my cycle so I know I will lose more and I want to prevent that. Any suggestions out there???

 

[oldfella]

I could use some help from the experienced guys. I'm currently coming off cycle and in addition to outside circumstances I am losing the hard earned gains! Just a background I am a hard gainer by genes, I went into the Air Force at 5'11" 167lbs! Now through diet and supplements I have earned my way up to 225lbs. I'm coming off cycle, about to start PCT and am losing weight. In addition to coming off I had a baby boy two weeks ago and have lost 10lbs through not being able to eat and train properly. I am also battling a herniated disk pushing on a nerve so I can hardly do legs much less blast them as needed. I have to use high reps/low weight, certain exercises only if I want to walk the next day. My appetite has disappeared so I tried starting the injectable b12 Synthamine or whichever the appetite enhancer is called. I still have no hunger. I know to some of you bigger guys 10lbs doesn't make or break you but for a hard gainer its a real kick in the nuts. I JUST stopped my cycle so I know I will lose more and I want to prevent that. Any suggestions out there???

Start your PCT now and keep your protein in take up. train when you can but keep the weights in the heavy range. Synthalamine is the one you are talking about. From Synthetek here at Pro Muscle.

 

[Ashop]

I could use some help from the experienced guys. I'm currently coming off cycle and in addition to outside circumstances I am losing the hard earned gains! Just a background I am a hard gainer by genes, I went into the Air Force at 5'11" 167lbs! Now through diet and supplements I have earned my way up to 225lbs. I'm coming off cycle, about to start PCT and am losing weight. In addition to coming off I had a baby boy two weeks ago and have lost 10lbs through not being able to eat and train properly. I am also battling a herniated disk pushing on a nerve so I can hardly do legs much less blast them as needed. I have to use high reps/low weight, certain exercises only if I want to walk the next day. My appetite has disappeared so I tried starting the injectable b12 Synthamine or whichever the appetite enhancer is called. I still have no hunger. I know to some of you bigger guys 10lbs doesn't make or break you but for a hard gainer its a real kick in the nuts. I JUST stopped my cycle so I know I will lose more and I want to prevent that. Any suggestions out there???

you have to saty focused om DIET AND TRAINING. You may need to treat your back first if injured. Also eating by the clock is the way to gains.

 

[tomsawyer]

clean diet, high in protein, proper water intake and increase the intensity in the gym and those should keep you inline Some gains will be lost..as will water gain..keep things running as you were still on, and your gains will be real-gains...a good foundation for future cycles.

 

[VanR__]

Who gives a shit?
You just had a lovely baby boy -- go love on him.
He'll have a pierced lip and be hating you soon enough.


I've lost gains coming off *every* cycle...

 

[neverbigenuf]

Yeah my gym time is valuable but the little man time is sacred. I should just make a protein shake every time he eats, I'll be 300+ in no time.

 

[loganb_football]

Hey you know I feel for your situation and what with a new child it will be hard, but to stay focused like Alin said is what you need to do.

Also I dont want to sound like an ad campaign or anything but have you tried those Lba's? I sip on those throughout the day, and throw in some meals w/ it....

Or maybe you could set up a schedule each day. I know thats easier said than done, especially with a little one now. But you could try to set a schedule on when to train and when to cook your meals. I personally make meals for three days, and of course add in the protein shakes. I put those in little sandwich bags because I dont have enough shaker cups!

I hope this maybe has helped you in some way so you can make more quality time for your little boy, and still have a bodybuilding lifestyle.

I hope for the best for your little boy, as well as yourself! These moments are going to be the toughest. But from what I hear they will go by in a blink on an eye.

 

[mike1107]

PCT, diet first

then I would train a bit less than when ON : what is good when u're on AAS may lead to overtraining when not "ON"

 

[Mackster]

Who gives a shit?
You just had a lovely baby boy -- go love on him...

Agreed...

 

[neverbigenuf]

Thanks, I think thats my problem. When I work I have my jumbo lunchbox right beside me and eat on schedule. Now I'm on vacation and I don't think about it. Time to go back to the old alarm idea!

 

[neverbigenuf]

Thats the main problem is the loss of appetite. I'm really going out of the way to try in get the protein. I have noticed one odd side effect. I'm waking up starving before I finish my sleep. When on cycle I slept like a baby now I get up and my stomach hurts from hunger midway through sleep. I have a large serving of whey protein with water before bed as always but doesn't seem to tide me over anymore.

 

[maldorf]

Coming off cycle, you have to MAKE yourself eat. sux I know because it's usually an enjoyable thing to do. Spread it out over the whole day to make it seem like you are not stuffing yourself again and again if you have to.

Big thing to remember though is that your metabolism is much slower now that you are off and there is a reason why your hunger is down. If you continue to eat the same amount of food as you did when you were on you will find yourself getting fat. Once you are off you will have to cut back some on food intake or youre just asking to expand your waistline. There is no way around this.

 

[STEEDA69]

Thats the main problem is the loss of appetite. I'm really going out of the way to try in get the protein. I have noticed one odd side effect. I'm waking up starving before I finish my sleep. When on cycle I slept like a baby now I get up and my stomach hurts from hunger midway through sleep. I have a large serving of whey protein with water before bed as always but doesn't seem to tide me over anymore.

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I used to be the same way! Your first problem is that you're consuming a fast acting protein (whey) before you fast essentially for 7-8 hrs. I usually eat very lean beef/veggies and fish oil OR some Salmon/veggies before bed. I'm still starving when I wake up but that's usually after my entire sleep cycle (8 hrs).

JD~

 

[BrooklynBB]

I could use some help from the experienced guys. I'm currently coming off cycle and in addition to outside circumstances I am losing the hard earned gains! Just a background I am a hard gainer by genes, I went into the Air Force at 5'11" 167lbs! Now through diet and supplements I have earned my way up to 225lbs. I'm coming off cycle, about to start PCT and am losing weight. In addition to coming off I had a baby boy two weeks ago and have lost 10lbs through not being able to eat and train properly. I am also battling a herniated disk pushing on a nerve so I can hardly do legs much less blast them as needed. I have to use high reps/low weight, certain exercises only if I want to walk the next day. My appetite has disappeared so I tried starting the injectable b12 Synthamine or whichever the appetite enhancer is called. I still have no hunger. I know to some of you bigger guys 10lbs doesn't make or break you but for a hard gainer its a real kick in the nuts. I JUST stopped my cycle so I know I will lose more and I want to prevent that. Any suggestions out there???

I can guess two glaring things from this post:

1. You're obviously not sleeping enough.

2. You're obviously not able to get to the gym as often as you were before.

If both of these are true, your appetite will be affected, as well as your hormone levels despite whatever you're coming off of currently, which means you need more time to repair because of weak tendons, and you're still trying to train as if you have everything else outside of your lifting in order - which you definitely do not.

Look, here it is plain and simple - you have a baby to take care of now. Who cares about your body - seriously? Your baby needs you and seriously, it's time to just forget about this bodybuilding thing and how you look for a long time.

Not that you have to give up on it totally. Get a home gym - buy those adjustable dumbbells that go up to 120 pounds and workout at home. Put in a chin up bar, invest in a smith machine - no excuses. Everything you need is right in your home.

I know you've worked hard but seriously, who here hasn't? We all busted our ass to break through to massive gains and sometimes life just doesn't care that we want nice biceps or a huge chest.

Screw that. I envy you because you have a beautiful baby boy that is a part of your life now and he would be the only thing I'd be lifting for the next few years - screw dumbbells.

Don't mean to be a preacher, but get your priorities straight brother.

 

[smokeybair]

i feel your pain bro. its happened to me in the past. not this time though. i am in my 5th week of pct after a 6month run. i havent lost a pound and my strength actually went up a little. what i am doing is mass fx, and hyperdrol from anabolic extreme. i still feel like i am on but from what i understand and have read is that these products do not mess with your own production of testosterone, rather they are a testosterone booster. perfect for pct. i am taking 4 a day of each. might want to try it my friend.

 

[neverbigenuf]

I'll try the whole foods Steeda, thanks. I know the gains will come back next time but with this back injury I can't do very much like I used to. I can't do impact cardio i.e. running, jump rope, jumping jacks, anything. I also can't practice Mixed Martial Arts anymore until its healed which I may never return to. Missing out on those kind of gets you bummed but when you start losing your weight on top of it, its just a kick in the nards. Its not an ego thing......well, not entirely.

 

[STEEDA69]

I'll try the whole foods Steeda, thanks. I know the gains will come back next time but with this back injury I can't do very much like I used to. I can't do impact cardio i.e. running, jump rope, jumping jacks, anything. I also can't practice Mixed Martial Arts anymore until its healed which I may never return to. Missing out on those kind of gets you bummed but when you start losing your weight on top of it, its just a kick in the nards. Its not an ego thing......well, not entirely.

I know exactly what you mean! I was in an auto accident in 2001 in which I sustained 2 herniated disks (cervical) and 1 wedge Compression fracture (T10). I had to stop lifting for 5 years and when I started back in Feb '05 I still couldn't squat or deadlift (or anything similar). I was just able to incorporate legs into my workouts the early part of this year! Lucky for me, legs were always my strongest BP.

Yeah, it sucked ass not being able to workout! I can tell you this though; I never was one to eat junk (burgers and fries etc.) and so I continued to eat moderate amounts of protein, carbs and kept the fats as low as possible. I tried to get in 5-6 small meals / day and believe it or not, I remained in damn good shape! "Random" people would still make remarks concerning my physique and I wasn't training at all! Once I did get back into the gym, (about a year now) the size & strength came back in no time!

You hear it over and over, (like a broken record) how IMPORTANT diet is in this sport! IMO it is the single MOST important factor in the way you look! Remember, "you are what you eat!"

SD~

 

[STEEDA69]

I'll try the whole foods Steeda, thanks. I know the gains will come back next time but with this back injury I can't do very much like I used to. I can't do impact cardio i.e. running, jump rope, jumping jacks, anything. I also can't practice Mixed Martial Arts anymore until its healed which I may never return to. Missing out on those kind of gets you bummed but when you start losing your weight on top of it, its just a kick in the nards. Its not an ego thing......well, not entirely.

I know exactly what you mean! I was in an auto accident in 2001 in which I sustained 2 herniated disks (cervical) and 1 wedge Compression fracture (T10). I had to stop lifting for 5 years and when I started back in Feb '05 I still couldn't squat or deadlift (or anything similar). I was just able to incorporate legs into my workouts the early part of this year! Lucky for me, legs were always my strongest BP.

Yeah, it sucked ass not being able to workout! I can tell you this though; I never was one to eat junk (burgers and fries etc.) and so I continued to eat moderate amounts of protein, carbs and kept the fats as low as possible. I tried to get in 5-6 small meals / day and believe it or not, I remained in damn good shape! "Random" people would still make remarks concerning my physique and I wasn't training at all! Once I did get back into the gym, (about a year now) the size & strength came back in no time!

You hear it over and over, (like a broken record) how IMPORTANT diet is in this sport! IMO it is the single MOST important factor in the way you look! Remember, "you are what you eat!"

SD~