mexican stuff???`

[lucian]

does anyone know whats availible down there now? lets say some one is going on vacation and wanted to take some stuff while he was there(im no going! i wish!!!!) what should still be there?
lucian

 

[gtj220]

According to what little i've read on the subject its best to stay away from the border towns and do biz further in country, less likely to get bogus cd's.

 

[thebrick]

here a shopping list...

from the Rivera Maya...

 

[lucian]

...

well my bud is going to cabo san lucas. hes gona be there for a week or so and wants to try something there. i have no idea why cause its only a week but, what tabs are availible? used to be stenox,andriol,and i think thats it.
lucian

 

[kidstuff]

if nothing else, get a margarita and go to the beach and then get some viagra and have some fun with the gf/wife. lol. love mexico

 

[Ryce]

Well we all know since operation gear grinder went down a few years back that Mexico has been pretty dry. You have all these UG labs popping up but nothing like it used to be. All that you have left now is sostenon 250 preloads, testovirion, testoprim-D, primobolan 50mg and 100mg amps, organon deca durabolin 50mgs amps, stenox (halo), sten, clen, t-3, andriol, and clomid. Thats about it. I think laurabolin is still around from intervet but not to sure.

Maybe this helped you out a bit. But good advice is to stay away from hot spots and border towns where american frequent as many fakes are sold there. But Im sure you already know this.

 

[jawbreakerkid]

I was just in Cabo and saw NADA!

 

[Ashop]

I was just in Cabo and saw NADA!

Not suprised. Last time I was there very dry,,,,SEVERAL fakes,,,VERY expensive for what was real.

 

[rAJJIN]

Wells there is No More Vet gear.... I wouldnt buy it if there was.
The good Ole days Of that are Over Im afraid. That use to be where it was at, you could get great deals on gear that was real. Now Just fakes and Some Ugls. I Have heard SYD still has Boldenone But Now its Only 50mg due to some new laws after geargrinder.

Theres still the Ma and Pa Shops. They sell stuff like what The brick has listed there. Overpriced Pharmacy products...Sus,Sten,Deca stuff like that.
You can get a good deal On Halotestin if you like it
Stenox... there only 2.5 mg But there real and Dirt cheap.

 

[redneckrz]

the us

the us doesnt have shit to do with shinola as far as operation raw deal goes in other countrys.the us as much as it would like to be the police force of the world doesnt have any juisdictioni any other country-period.if you do a check
the us didnt arrest anyone in operation raw deal in mexico,ya know why?only
the ug labs got busted because they are not legal in mexico.the regular and legal horomone manufactures produce products under licence.[which by the way is why alot of people go to mexico to get human or animal grade products and have been doing so for decades.]
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY JURISDICTION IN MEXICO.they talked a story but no arrests.they talked about arrests but that is it.go fuck the us.
other countries worked in conjuction in the sweep.the us didnt have any control what so ever in those countries,only input.those other countries acted
on thier own.
the us is NOT THE KING OF THE WORLD as they would have you believe.the us news is responsabile for more bullshit propanda half truths without telling the whole truth.they leave out the whole truth.that is news and that is what sells.they leave the imagination of the average joe public to run a muck.
the us news is natorious for getting us all in a hypervigilant,stressed condition
to keep perpetuating its half truths.it keeps the public enticed.
as far as the us ug labs busted this board is full of info on the subjct.that was operation raw deal.steroids are legal in mexico under a doctors script
and there are plenty of manufactures there!-----my2cents.

 

[rAJJIN]

the us doesnt have shit to do with shinola as far as operation raw deal goes in other countrys.the us as much as it would like to be the police force of the world doesnt have any juisdictioni any other country-period.if you do a check
the us didnt arrest anyone in operation raw deal in mexico,ya know why?only
the ug labs got busted because they are not legal in mexico.the regular and legal horomone manufactures produce products under licence.[which by the way is why alot of people go to mexico to get human or animal grade products and have been doing so for decades.]
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY JURISDICTION IN MEXICO.they talked a story but no arrests.they talked about arrests but that is it.go fuck the us.
other countries worked in conjuction in the sweep.the us didnt have any control what so ever in those countries,only input.those other countries acted
on thier own.
the us is NOT THE KING OF THE WORLD as they would have you believe.the us news is responsabile for more bullshit propanda half truths without telling the whole truth.they leave out the whole truth.that is news and that is what sells.they leave the imagination of the average joe public to run a muck.
the us news is natorious for getting us all in a hypervigilant,stressed condition
to keep perpetuating its half truths.it keeps the public enticed.
as far as the us ug labs busted this board is full of info on the subjct.that was operation raw deal.steroids are legal in mexico under a doctors script
and there are plenty of manufactures there!-----my2cents.

Well your wrong. Im not talking about "operation Raw Deal" Im talking about
Operation Geargrinder. Id bet the owners Of Ttokkyo,QV,Tornel,Brovel,Animal Power,Syd group,Loefler, Denkall Etc would all disagree with you as well.
Most would Have to tell you from behind Bars though. Although I did hear the original owner Of ttokkyo is getting out soon.

Im not getting into all that Us thinks they can rule the world talk.
All Im saying is your wrong to think they have no say or control of whats Done in mexico. working together or Not...legal there or Not... All I know is they sent a Lot of the key Guys to Jail. Lab Owners, Vet shop Owners, Distributers etc.

 

[Ryce]

The fact is the US can impose its will on other countries. No maybe not flat out walking into thier country an arresting people but when the USA asks for cooperation most countries will listen. Why?? The USA has alot of power economically in these countries. Mexico for instance relies heavily on the USA for a varitey of things from manufacturing all the way to exportation of goods. All the USA has to do is say to a country like mexico is that they will hammer down on a certain area econimcally if mexico doesnt cooperate and mexico will fold up like a lawn chair and do whatever. Same way with thailand. Now does it come to that in cases like this....? probably not but with the threat of something like that looming do you think a country is gonna say no when they depend on the USA. No.

The only reason china agreed to investigate thier own chemical companies is becuase of the pressure by the USA and the IOC for the upcoming olympics. Everybody knows China's athletes are the biggest cheaters in the world and china wants to project a good image so they help out a little. I read an artlice online from the washington post that said the USA had 44 different compnies on a list and they gave it to china to investigate. Within days these compnies simply moved to another province in china and set up shop. There are plenty of chinese compnies producing raw materials. Question is who is ballsy enough to risk importation. Nobody I know. But its there. Raw Deal and gear grinder were just charades. You notice how both of these came in election years. 2005 was senate election year. 2007 is coming up on a presidential election year. Coincsidence??

 

[redneckrz]

the us doesnt any control over who goes to jail in mexico.they may have input
but that is all.

 

[redneckrz]

RYCE

i think you are 100% on target.you said it way better than i could have.thanx

 

[rAJJIN]

the us doesnt any control over who goes to jail in mexico.they may have input
but that is all.

WEll Imput,control...call it what you want.
Vet Roids and Companies that were Licensed and Perfectly legal Just 5-6 years ago In mexico are Now Closed up and there owners- distributers are in Jail. Tell me How or why that is? Guys that never even stepped into the United states. Qulaity-Vet was a Multi-million Dollar company. Everybodybuilder in the United states (and probably the world) Had heard of them. They were a damn good Reputable and affordable Company.

Is it Right? Hell no! Do I Agree, absouloutley not.
If Anything they should have Only been able to get the guys crossing it Over
(The Mules) They were actualy taking the chance and Breaking the Laws and they Knew it. But for them To "have enough Imput" and shut these companys Down all at ONCE! Not Only shut them Down But Seized there Money,Cars arrest distributers and COMPLETLEY change the mexican steroid Market.

I dont like it or think its right....Bullshit if you ask me.
But Believe it, It happened.

Tell me what you see in the Vet shops now? Maybe some new Unheard Of UGl brand? Could be real...could be fake? Maybe some 50Mg stuff.
Its Not like it use to be trust me.

So let me ask redneckrz who then is the reason or the Blame?
And who took the credit for that Operation Geargrinder and all the arrests, Seizures, Labs being closed etc?

 

[Ryce]

I agree with you rAJJIN 100%. The USa in all its supposed glory and righteousness trying to save us all actually made it worse for all of us. They people in washington never think of those things when they act. They shoot first and ask questions later. I am in total agreement that the USA far abuses its international power when it comes to things like this.

I dont remember the USA walking into columbia and shutting down the coke cartels. Also because the coke cartels run the governments there and shoot back with all of their mini armies. If I am not mistaken I think the USa tried that back in teh late 80's and failed when the cartels drove the local army and LE out and also drove back the small military groups sent in to bring them down.

You dont have that in mexico with steroids. Santiel-Cohen and Qv dont have armies to protect them from the mexican -US led attack. It really is a shame to becuase it used to be wonderful walking into a veterinary shop in the early part of this century and late 1990's and just see boxes and boxes of stuff on the shelves. I would walk into a pharmacy and the owner would close the shop just for me. The shadiness and criminality of it was something out of a movie. Something I fear we will never see again.

Damn shame too because those were fun times.

 

[rAJJIN]

Heres One of the old articles I dug up from here Back when it went down.
I think this was Posted By JJinsane1 or Gingerbreadman.

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WASHINGTON - U.S. agents arrested a Mexican veterinarian identified as the world's leading maker of anabolic steroids for humans and have choked the flow of such illegal performance enhancers across the U.S.-Mexico border, authorities said Thursday.

It was the largest steroid bust in history, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration said.

A 21-month investigation targeted steroid traffickers in the United States and eight major Mexican suppliers, who are accused of selling the products on the Internet.

In San Diego, agents on Wednesday captured veterinarian Alberto Saltiel-Cohen of Mexico City, owner of the three largest manufacturers — Quality Vet, Denkall and Animal Power, officials said.

The accused suppliers' businesses accounted for $56 million in steroid sales per year — a large majority of all anabolic steroids flowing into the U.S. from Mexico, authorities said.

DEA agents said the suspected suppliers tried to cover their operations by advertising the steroids as products for animals such as race horses. Customers placed orders online, paid by credit card or wire transfer and the manufacturer sent the product from Mexico, the DEA said.

Agents arrested two suspected traffickers in Laredo — Luis Alberto Flores, a Mexican national, and Blanca Trevino, of Laredo. They, along with 21 others in Mexico and the United States, were indicted on a litany of federal charges.

Flores and Trevino, a veterinary store owner in Nuevo Laredo, allegedly shuttled steroids between the two countries for mass distribution, said Laura Duffy, assistant U.S. attorney in San Diego.

A woman who answered the phone at Trevino's residence declined to comment.

Saltiel-Cohen's main product — nandrolone — is a potent muscle builder that occurs naturally in the human body in tiny quantities. Physicians use it to strengthen the body tissue of HIV-infected men; athletes can use it to bulk up.

The surprise crackdown, code-named Operation Gear Grinder — "gear" is a street term for steroids — came amid several high-profile steroid scandals that have shaken Major League Baseball and much of the sports world.

Authorities said they waited to make the bust, in conjunction with Mexican law enforcement, to hit the manufacturers in a clean sweep — thus preventing any one of the businesses from hiding.

"We want to stop that 16-year-old who's on the cusp of greatness from using, because he's going to ruin his life," said Rusty Payne, a DEA special agent in Washington. "We want to make it hard for manufacturers, we want to squeeze and dry up the supply."

Payne said the investigation uncovered no purchases by major athletes. Instead, he said, many of the buyers turned out to be young athletes, body builders and skinny males.

The DEA identified more than 2,000 U.S. residents who bought steroids from the indicted businesses. The customers include individual users, street dealers and organized trafficking groups in dozens of cities nationwide, including Houston, said Duffy, the San Diego prosecutor.

On Thursday night, agents with the DEA's Houston Division and others nationwide visited some buyers door-to-door — not to make arrests, but to warn them about the dangers of steroids and interview them in hopes of unearthing more traffickers, Payne said.

A local DEA official declined comment.

Steroid and doping watchdogs celebrated the DEA's announcement as a huge victory.

Don H. Catlin, a medical professor at UCLA, a pioneer of drug tests on Olympic athletes, called the results spectacular.

"You know what's going on, you know that orders for steroids are flying around the country by e-mail, but as a citizen, you have limits in what you can accomplish," he said.

 

[Ryce]

it wasnt just QV, denkall, and animal power but brovel, tornel, loffler, and sydgroup too if I remember correctly. They had info and contacts on all of them. Brovel and tornel are still in business just not making anything in high doeses. 20mg prop, 50mg eq. Syd has a 50mg winstrol, deca, and cyp out from what i read.

i am not sure what happened to loeffler or aranda. Norvet had a enanthate and sust 250 and liquid dbol out but they are gone too. Just sad. Sad sad sad.

 

[Ryce]

I stand corrected. Aranda according to thier website is still making thier aratest 250 and aratest 50. Something is better than nothing i guess.

 

[rAJJIN]

it wasnt just QV, denkall, and animal power but brovel, tornel, loffler, and sydgroup too if I remember correctly. They had info and contacts on all of them. Brovel and tornel are still in business just not making anything in high doeses. 20mg prop, 50mg eq. Syd has a 50mg winstrol, deca, and cyp out from what i read.

i am not sure what happened to loeffler or aranda. Norvet had a enanthate and sust 250 and liquid dbol out but they are gone too. Just sad. Sad sad sad.

Hey Ryce thats good to know... I heard from my buddy in Tj that SYD still had some 50Mg Eq But I wasnt sure about Tornel and Brovel...Or that Syd had winn and Cyp. That Tornel Equigan 50x50 was a Good product! Glad to hear thats still being produced! I bet the price shot up though eh?

Like you said there was some good Companys. I think that article was EARLY in the ordeal. I remember seeing others that named a lot more. Thats Just one I dug up right quik.