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My aching shoulders

neversaydie

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Any advice on helping me isolate my chest. My shoulders are usually always fried. I have had this trouble since I was in my early twenties.

Advil works
Deca works when on
I will not use Nubain

Splits are 5 on 2 off / I am 35
Chest
Legs
Back
Shoulders
Bis/Tris

I only spend 20-30 minutes in gym.

The only thing that does not hurt them is the pec deck.

Any ideas
 

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Glucosamine, chondroiton and MSM have made a huge difference in my joints and tendons. Also keeping your anti-oxidant intake high will help keep the joints in good shape. Keeping fiber intake high will help keep the gut cleaned out so better nutrient absorption can occur. A heaping tablspoon of Metamucil every night is good to keep the gut scraped clean. If you're not already taking these supplements, you could try them out for a few months and see if there's an improvement, it worked well for me. Plus keep your training light while the cartiladge in your shoulders is rebuilding.
 

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MikeS said:
I dont know why more people dont try this, off cycle:

http://www.dpsnutrition.net/product_information.asp?number=EG005&back=yes&dept=1043&last=1043

19-nor-diol 100mg
19-nor-dione 100mg

The prohormones that are the precursors to deca.

This is the best product/price I came accross in a brief search for such products. Worth a try, along with glucosamine/chonidriton.

Do you think you could use this for joint relieve while on say a test only cycle instead of Deca for joint pain relief.
 

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Sure you could. May not work quite as well as injectable deca. But for those who have sides on deca, this may be a little more managable because of the way shorter half life.
 

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I have a free solution

time off. Take a week off, You will come back stroner and feel alot better. It is hard I know to take off because you think you gonna lose muscle, but just do it
 

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Well, it's gonna take a whole lot more than a week to heal problem joints. That's a problem that can take several months to fix.

As for using pro-hormones while off cycle, that can cause problems in itself. I agree that deca-precursors can help with the joint problems, but if you use them while off cycle, you're never giving the hpta any recovery time. Using them while on a test only cycle, or any time you take winny would be helpful. If you're going to do that though, you might as well just use deca and get the full anabolic effects too.
 

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