My doctor prescribed me 1 mg of growth hormone every night

[Jake LaMotta]

I am currently on TRT. I'm taking ALL doctor prescribed 200 mg test cyp weekly injections. 1 1/2 grain NatureThroid, 50 mg daily DHEA, and 0.5 mg Arimidex every 3 days and I have Tamoxifen in case I ever need it. My doc told me if I ever want to have a child I should consider adding HCG to the mix. Anyway, my test levels are usually in the high 900's and my estradiol is currently <32. And that's where my doc likes both levels. Sex drive and erections ARE OFF THE F'N HOOK. I've also been putting on some nice size and gaining some good strength.

Here's the thing. I have a history of head trauma due to being a former (not so good) amateur boxer. And I used to spar 2x-3x a week with superheavyweights. My doc has given me a lot of blood tests which show low IGF-1. They did an MRI of my brain and there were no tumors. However when they did a growth hormone stimulation test they discovered my pituatary wasnt making enough growth hormone and doc thinks it's due to all the head trauma. He prescribed me 1 mg of growth hormone every night. However my insurance denied it and said for me to get approved the doctor will have to call up personally and explain to them why a 30 year old 6' 270 pounder needs growth hormone.

Numerous blood tests show low IGF-1...a growth hormone stimulation test showed my pituatary wasnt making enough growth hormone...and I have a history of head trauma. WHAT MORE DO I NEED? Anybody have any experience on this sort of thing? Will I eventually get this approved?

For those who are interested, here's an interesting article on head trauma and growth hormone deficiency:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3636294

And, not to be a pain, and this is WAY off topic, but could you guys check out my revised upper/lower split:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...-forum/59372-upper-lower-aba-bab-routine.html

 

[bigcats]

insurance bullshit.

I am going through similar experience now.Twenty years ago i had cancer,follwed with 3 years of chemo.I am 38 now cancer free.As result of chemo my pituary got fried.I have a internist who prescribed me hgh ,test,arimdex and hcg.As of new year i had insurance change.Because i wasnt seen by a endogronolist my insurance wont pay.I can get prescribed test arimdex hcg but not growth.My doctor is sending out an appeal form.I feel the effects of not having it for 2 months.Be proactive about it and be determined.Good luck.

 

[richiec]

Insurance will deny it because it is not considered a vital treatment to them. HRT and TRT can sometimes be considered a necessary treatment, but GH would typically be approved for a child or teenager with a deficiency, not a 30 yr old. I am an insurance agent and don't agree with a lot of things the companies do, but the doc is going to have to give a darn good reason for you to be on GH treatment. I wish you luck in this, but it's going to be tough

 

[nickman1978]

then how do all these other guys get perscribed GH and be able to get itwithout any problems? What do thay pay out of there own pocket?

just curious ...

 

[Stewie Griffon]

Insurance will deny it because it is not considered a vital treatment to them. HRT and TRT can sometimes be considered a necessary treatment, but GH would typically be approved for a child or teenager with a deficiency, not a 30 yr old. I am an insurance agent and don't agree with a lot of things the companies do, but the doc is going to have to give a darn good reason for you to be on GH treatment. I wish you luck in this, but it's going to be tough

the doc DOES have a very good reason, he explained it clearly in the post. insurance companies are just out to collect money from everyone they can. insurance companies would rather deny someone coverage and spend the money instead on their lawyers trying to use some legal trickery to get out of paying. scum

 

[Jake LaMotta]

My doctor called them to explain why I need the HGH and guess what...I got approved. It will be delivered next week (in a cooler because it has to be refrigerated).

So now my current ALL doctor prescribed TRT regimen is:

Test cyp 200 mg every week
NatureThroid 1 1/2 grain every day
DHEA 50 mg (25 mg morning/25 mg evening) every day
Arimidex 0.5 mg every 3 days
Norditropin 1 mg every day at bedtime (here's the website: **broken link removed** )

It looks like things are starting to go my way.

 

[ballennonstop]

My doctor called them to explain why I need the HGH and guess what...I got approved. It will be delivered next week (in a cooler because it has to be refrigerated).

So now my current ALL doctor prescribed TRT regimen is:

Test cyp 200 mg weekly
NatureThroid 1 1/2 grain every day
DHEA 50 mg (25 mg morning/25 mg evening) every day
Arimidex 0.5 mg every 3 days
Norditropin 1 mg every day (at bedtime)

It looks like things are starting to go my way.

Good for you bro! I love hearing storys like this with a positive ending. I like your point about it being shipped in cooler packs as well. This is standard protocol for any pharmacy that is on the up and up. What pharmacy is it from if you don't mind me asking? Also did you get the Nordiflex pen?? Back when I worked in HRT I used to always recommend Nordiflex pen bc everyone that used it loved it!

 

[dragonfire101]

I'm in same boat as you. I have pituitary disorder ,which is doesn't function properly. It appear to be possible microadenoma, but could also be pituitary was affected by head trauma, illness or genetic and or environmental factors were explained as possible cause.

Insurance would not pay for the GH for me although recommended.

 

[Jake LaMotta]

...Also did you get the Nordiflex pen?? Back when I worked in HRT I used to always recommend Nordiflex pen bc everyone that used it loved it!

Thanks ballennonstop. Yes, they are giving me the pen type. I can't wait to start using this. I've never used HGH before.

 

[dragonfire101]

Thanks ballennonstop. Yes, they are giving me the pen type. I can't wait to start using this. I've never used HGH before.

You go approved Cool... Wish I could.

 

[Michaelthomasj]

My doctor called them to explain why I need the HGH and guess what...I got approved. It will be delivered next week (in a cooler because it has to be refrigerated).

So now my current ALL doctor prescribed TRT regimen is:

Test cyp 200 mg every week
NatureThroid 1 1/2 grain every day
DHEA 50 mg (25 mg morning/25 mg evening) every day
Arimidex 0.5 mg every 3 days
Norditropin 1 mg every day at bedtime (here's the website: Norditropin® (somatropin [rDNA origin] injection): Growth hormone therapy information for parents, caregivers, and adult patients )

It looks like things are starting to go my way.

Awsome bro. I am happy for you! Its about time the little guy beats the big insurance company!! FUCKING AWSOME!!

 

[Jake LaMotta]

From what I've read, 1 mg of human growth hormone is 3 IU's. Will taking this dosage every night really help me? I have never taken HGH before in my life. I have to admit, I'm kind of excited.

 

[maldorf]

From what I've read, 1 mg of human growth hormone is 3 IU's. Will taking this dosage every night really help me? I have never taken HGH before in my life. I have to admit, I'm kind of excited.

Thats about the normal amount for someone I think. If you are low naturally, that will certainly make you feel better. When i used to cycle GH, I had to start out at just 2IU/day because the sides were bad enough. Id get the numb hands and sore knees. The HRT dose might actually be more like 2IU/day, im not sure.

 

[richiec]

the doc DOES have a very good reason, he explained it clearly in the post. insurance companies are just out to collect money from everyone they can. insurance companies would rather deny someone coverage and spend the money instead on their lawyers trying to use some legal trickery to get out of paying. scum

I read the post and what the doc would say, but what you don't understand is that what we think is a good reason or what a doc thinks doesn't always coincide with what the insurance company deems to be a good reason. If that type of therapy isn't covered by the policy, then denying it shouldn't be a shock. BTW, congrats on gettinng approved.
Insurance companies are business' which means they need to take in more money than giving out. They have paid millions in fraudulant claims, so yes, they will deny until they investigate. This doesn't make them scum, just smart business persons. There is NO legal trickery, a insurance policy is a legal contract. Read the contract and it will tell you what is covered. If there are any lies, or misheald answers, they won't pay due to material misrepresentation. People always bash the insurance companies when they don't pay, but they don't understand any of the legality on the business.

 

[Ashop]

I am currently on TRT. I'm taking ALL doctor prescribed 200 mg test cyp weekly injections. 1 1/2 grain NatureThroid, 50 mg daily DHEA, and 0.5 mg Arimidex every 3 days and I have Tamoxifen in case I ever need it. My doc told me if I ever want to have a child I should consider adding HCG to the mix. Anyway, my test levels are usually in the high 900's and my estradiol is currently <32. And that's where my doc likes both levels. Sex drive and erections ARE OFF THE F'N HOOK. I've also been putting on some nice size and gaining some good strength.

Here's the thing. I have a history of head trauma due to being a former (not so good) amateur boxer. And I used to spar 2x-3x a week with superheavyweights. My doc has given me a lot of blood tests which show low IGF-1. They did an MRI of my brain and there were no tumors. However when they did a growth hormone stimulation test they discovered my pituatary wasnt making enough growth hormone and doc thinks it's due to all the head trauma. He prescribed me 1 mg of growth hormone every night. However my insurance denied it and said for me to get approved the doctor will have to call up personally and explain to them why a 30 year old 6' 270 pounder needs growth hormone.

Numerous blood tests show low IGF-1...a growth hormone stimulation test showed my pituatary wasnt making enough growth hormone...and I have a history of head trauma. WHAT MORE DO I NEED? Anybody have any experience on this sort of thing? Will I eventually get this approved?

For those who are interested, here's an interesting article on head trauma and growth hormone deficiency:

HGH or injuries in the NFL - ESPN The Magazine

And, not to be a pain, and this is WAY off topic, but could you guys check out my revised upper/lower split:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...-forum/59372-upper-lower-aba-bab-routine.html

Sounds like your working with a very open minded doctor,,,theres not alot of those around.

 

[mitochondria]

im very interested in the research on the brain with mri's cuz im looking into mma, but want to keep the brain good

 

[NeveReveN]

How Do I Get Things "Going My Way"?

You made me laugh! "I'm 6 ft, weigh 270, get everything I need paid for by insurance, and now I'm even getting growth hormone." STARTING to go your way!! My only questions now are (1) how many times and how hard must I get hit in the head to qualify for your protocol and (2) what's the name and phone number of your doctor?

 

[Jake LaMotta]

The nurse from Norditropin stopped by my house and showed me how to do the injections. I'm SHOCKED how easy it was. I just gave myself my very first injection (1 mg). 1 mg of HGH is 3 IU's, right?

By the way, the nurse was pretty but unfortunately had a boyfriend

 

[mruhaul]

yes...1mg = 3iu

 

[Jake LaMotta]

yes...1mg = 3iu

Thanks mruhaul.