started when i was 18. didnt get into body building till bout 3 years ago, i started taking it more seriously bout 6 months ago. when i realized the only way my size is going to show through on my arms and upper body is to get alot freaking bigger. i have a long torso shorter legs, and very long arms. also no i dont play basket ball touch of humor. any way ya it has taken a long time to even gain the size i have. the reason i take it alot more seriously now is my training partner is 5 foot nothing with 18 inch arms, his arms look bigger than mine outstretched. so i figured what the hell syntherol is right up my alley. also why i did the pics with the measuring tape. now to the next question why do you ask?