NATURAL SHOW

[PATRAINER]

Friend did natural show sat in Lakewood Oh. Checking out pics this morning. Question is how do these guys pass the drug tests? There is no way looking at the banned supps list that these guys can look like that. One or two maybe, with great genetics but wow.

 

[Dad]

Possible

GH, insulin IGF's cannot be tested for.
Aqeuous testosterones should clear the body in a matter of day due to short half-lives.

Not saying these guys used any of this, but it is theoretically possible to do thnigs in a way to aviod detection.

 

[cmwings]

hey PAtrainer,
Your friend did the show or you did? If you are the same Patrainer that posted on Mayhem that you did Tri-state open then you are the "friend" who did the show in Lakewood since I saw you on stage! You were a Middle at erie and a light at the "natural" northern. I'd like to think that when you posted in the thread titled IP bulk oils on 9/26/05 saying you have used Sust,deca and Eq that you meant over a year ago and have been natural ever since-???Care to fill us in? I do not have a problem with juice or anyone who uses juice to do a non-tested show,I do have a problem with liars and cheaters.
CM

 

[PATRAINER]

SHOW

No friend did the show. Could not do natural would never pass the tests. Do use supps.

 

[PATRAINER]

Show

Plus at 172 how could I do lights? So watch who you call cheater.

 

[Bellina]

Pbbbft. Truth be told most "natural" shows are not natural. Most competitors get clean beforehand. Not to mention it would cost thousands of dollars to test each competitor for every compound. And as previously stated there are some that cannot be tested for. I have spoken with people involved who tell me that in many instances the urine is just thrown out. Is is used as a deterent and as a preventitive measure. The whole natural competitor thing is a farce. Not to say that there aren't people out there who aren't natural, but the sad thing is the majority of those who say they don't use are full of crap.

 

[dragonfire101]

Bellina

What about the polygraphs. I would never be able to pass one. In my area they ask you at the polygraph if you have used anything within the last 5 years.

 

[STORM SHADOW]

Pbbbft. Truth be told most "natural" shows are not natural. Most competitors get clean beforehand. Not to mention it would cost thousands of dollars to test each competitor for every compound. And as previously stated there are some that cannot be tested for. I have spoken with people involved who tell me that in many instances the urine is just thrown out. Is is used as a deterent and as a preventitive measure. The whole natural competitor thing is a farce. Not to say that there aren't people out there who aren't natural, but the sad thing is the majority of those who say they don't use are full of crap.

I'm with her ^^^^^^^^


SS

 

[Creator_11]

Bellina

What about the polygraphs. I would never be able to pass one. In my area they ask you at the polygraph if you have used anything within the last 5 years.

Good question I've often wondered that too, quite a few natural shows now use this method, is it effective in this case?

 

[Bellina]

Bellina

What about the polygraphs. I would never be able to pass one. In my area they ask you at the polygraph if you have used anything within the last 5 years.

I don't know much about poly's honestly. I know their passable, but I don't know much else.

 

[cmwings]

No friend did the show. Could not do natural would never pass the tests. Do use supps.

If you aren't the same guy i truly apologize.But,if you got fifth at Erie in the middles either you or your twin did the show in Lakewood. I agree with you though,some of the dudes at lakewood had to be using "supplements".If not I better start working alot harder in the gym and I guess i've run out of excuses!Again sorry if i got the wrong guy.To those who compete in natural shows and are using-SHAME ON YOU!

 

[PATRAINER]

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Truly was not me. If I knew how people got by the tests wouldnt have asked the question.