New guy could use some help

Bulldawg · Mar 3, 2004

I have been on this board for some time now, mainly reading ,reading and reading I knew very little about gear use and still am a little overwhelmed by all the info that is out there. Thanks to a good friend I have learned the basics. Currently I have started a cycle of sustanon 250. 250mgs EOD for 20days 10-14 days into this I plan to add 10mgs d-bol 2x daily and carry this for 4 weeks after which I to switch to EQ now my question is this again my good friend is a great help and very knowledgable but I would like to do some research of my own and I was hoping that some one co uld help a guy out who is very neew to this and wants to do as much right as poss. Maybe a little background first I am 5'6" 200lbs. and currently at I woould guess(and it is only a guess)16-18%bf I personally tend to hold water I am not naturally lean and must fight tooth and nail to hold my ground against fat lol. I have been lifting for to many years the wrong way and am now just begining to learn all over again. I am now lifting and not just overtraining and my body is responding very well. I do not have any goals to compete in the bodybuilding world but I do so very much love the sport!!! My main concerns are post-cycle what to do how to do it and maybe some input on a good gear to use after the 4 we eks of d-bol. In addition, so far my body loves this stuff and am seeing great things so far just want to most importantly do things right and not just cowboy my way through this . I would like , when I come off, to keep as much as poss. and still feel somewhat healthy. Any help on this would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance

On a seperate note the article"Begining principles for growth" two thumbs up and a thank you. That opened my eyes and was an incredible help!!!!!

weight77 · Mar 3, 2004

Fist off I personally think that you jumped the gun on the steriod thing. If you were to cut all bf you wold probally wind up around 160lbs, maybe even lower depending on how much bf you do infact have. Enough of that.

So is this right.

this is in weeks

1-3 sust 250 eod
2-6 dbol 20mg ed (spread out)
Eq-?

I have not seen a cycle like that. How far into the cycle are you. I would go back and change everything. It would be best to run the sust 250 3 (maybe 4) times a week along with the dbol for 4 weeks in the begining and also the eq all together. I would run the eq for no less than 8 weeks. Hope that helps, good luck.

xcelbeyond · Mar 3, 2004

Sounds a bit fishy.

Sustanon takes a bit to kick in. D-bol is generally added up front 'cause it kicks-in right away. I agree that EQ is typically an 8-weeker. I'm not going suggest amounts but look at this:

Wk 1-8 Sust
Wk 1-4 D-bol
Wk 9-11 Prop
Wk 6-11 Winny
Optional (since it's your first go):
Wk 1-8 EQ (low dose)

Post Cycle:
Clomid
low-dose anastrozole
Clen

xcel

Armageddon · Mar 3, 2004

This guys too far gone just let him walk off into the moon lite dragging his ass. LOL Hope your ready for saturday!!

Armageddon · Mar 3, 2004

The 250 every other day for about five weeks serves as a primer for the Eq. Add the Eq after these 5 weeks and you'll already have all the androgens flowing through your body from the sust and when you slam it with the anabolics of the Eq you'll be in a great state for gaining some serious new muscle. Diet is always important, but I feel it's alittle more important when getting to the Eq phase of this program. I personally only like orals for 4weeks maybe 6 but that is stretching it, for me atleast.
Things will pan out as long as you stay in the garage and work and not get lazy in that recliner.