No drive

[chevy1234]

I have no drive or motivation when off cycle.Trying to find something to take when off.Was on 10wks and have been off 6wks.I think i am going to start again at 7wks.a little early but cant take the way i feel right now.

 

[shredded08]

go get bloodwork done and see if your body has completely recovered....how old are you? you could be ready for HRT

 

[chevy1234]

Blood work ok.But i am 41.Just feel like in major slump.Thinking maybe start next cycle now to get me happy again.

 

[aeliop]

Blood work ok.But i am 41.Just feel like in major slump.Thinking maybe start next cycle now to get me happy again.

Is there anything else that makes you happy besides being enhanced? Do you have to lift weights or have strength and muscles?

 

[tl2001]

I wonder about your on-cycle nutrition bro, as well as your post-cycle therapy. I've had decent gains after 10, 12, 15 weekers (week 18 and 19 of a 15 week cycle, for example), because of proper nutrition and proper therapy. Obviously you cannot keep everything, but if you do things the right way you can get as close as possible. My first instinct is to attribute this "slump" to less than ideal nutrition while running your compounds.
I agree with aeliop - synthetic testosterone administration should not be the be all end all of how you feel. Unless your drug use has something to do with what you do for a living (ie pro athlete), it is important to keep things in perspective. Be a human being, father, son, brother, man first, and be a bodybuilder second. I wish you the best man, good luck.

 

[blackhulk]

yeah bro i feel you about post cyc blues... i have a friend that is so depressed off cyc that he barely even works out... no drive at all. All i can say is stay motivated towards your goals as well as staying positive!!

 

[mature muscle]

at your age you may want to stay on 125mgs wk of test might help.or try syntheselen works great for energy feels like your still on.

 

[maldorf]

I have no drive or motivation when off cycle.Trying to find something to take when off.Was on 10wks and have been off 6wks.I think i am going to start again at 7wks.a little early but cant take the way i feel right now.

Chances are very great that you are suffering from low test levels because of the AAS use. If you plan to continue cycling as you are you might want to consider seeing a doctor about HRT. You can run that all year long safely. The doc will run regular blood tests for you to see that everything is in line. ONly problem is that you will probably have to hide the fact that you are using AAS. There are only 2 other solutions: one you mentioned and thats going back on cycle early which could be bad for your health, and the other option is to stay off for 6months to 1 year or whatever it takes to get back your natural test production.

 

[Michaelthomasj]

Chances are very great that you are suffering from low test levels because of the AAS use. If you plan to continue cycling as you are you might want to consider seeing a doctor about HRT. You can run that all year long safely. The doc will run regular blood tests for you to see that everything is in line. ONly problem is that you will probably have to hide the fact that you are using AAS. There are only 2 other solutions: one you mentioned and thats going back on cycle early which could be bad for your health, and the other option is to stay off for 6months to 1 year or whatever it takes to get back your natural test production.

I feel that this is the cause as well. Was your pct sufficient? if so you should go see a dr, and see whats going on.

 

[aeliop]

My questions

I don't want to seem like I am passing judgement on anyone and if I do I will get out of your thread but the concept of working out while on and not working while off etc.... is almost unfathomonable to me. I have enjoyed lifting since I was 15. It is hard to remember when I didn't lift. Wherever I have traveled I have always felt a place to lift. I don't play golf or poker lifting is what I do. What ever supplement road I have traveled has never influenced my participation in weightlifting. That being said to the guy who can't even work out when not on I would say why waste your time, money and if the US your freedom for something of such little importance to you. I would also search deep within themselves for their motivation for going to the gym. I don't think for health because there are much healthier ways then being "on" gaining weight, raising all levels good and bad, pct, and in a few weeks feeling like crap, and back where you started only a little fatter. Is it for the "wow" effect "hey look at me I got big arms" once again much easier to go buy a Harley or a Rolex if you want to get noticed. Maybe it's just me but there is a bigger problem here and it ain't the low test count.

 

[Michaelthomasj]

I don't want to seem like I am passing judgement on anyone and if I do I will get out of your thread but the concept of working out while on and not working while off etc.... is almost unfathomonable to me. I have enjoyed lifting since I was 15. It is hard to remember when I didn't lift. Wherever I have traveled I have always felt a place to lift. I don't play golf or poker lifting is what I do. What ever supplement road I have traveled has never influenced my participation in weightlifting. That being said to the guy who can't even work out when not on I would say why waste your time, money and if the US your freedom for something of such little importance to you. I would also search deep within themselves for their motivation for going to the gym. I don't think for health because there are much healthier ways then being "on" gaining weight, raising all levels good and bad, pct, and in a few weeks feeling like crap, and back where you started only a little fatter. Is it for the "wow" effect "hey look at me I got big arms" once again much easier to go buy a Harley or a Rolex if you want to get noticed. Maybe it's just me but there is a bigger problem here and it ain't the low test count.

Yeah T, You may be on to something.

 

[chevy1234]

I never said i wasnt working out and told you my blood was fine.I have kept most of my gains also.What i guess i am saying is when off i force myself to the gain and put out 60 percent.When on i am animal.I know you all feel that same.Thing is it really sucks to reliy on stuff to feel better.I thank you for your opinions.Maybe it is in my head.I will continue to push on and start cycle next wk and do my pct corretly and get my blood work.Then maybe the drive will come back and stay.Maybe im just getting old!

 

[maldorf]

I never said i wasnt working out and told you my blood was fine.I have kept most of my gains also.What i guess i am saying is when off i force myself to the gain and put out 60 percent.When on i am animal.I know you all feel that same.Thing is it really sucks to reliy on stuff to feel better.I thank you for your opinions.Maybe it is in my head.I will continue to push on and start cycle next wk and do my pct corretly and get my blood work.Then maybe the drive will come back and stay.Maybe im just getting old!

Go see an endocrinologist if you can directly, or have your family doc refer you. Have a test level run and see where you are at. If youre low, then you have to consider what I wrote in the previous post. My guess is that you havent recovered your natural levels yet and more time is needed. I waited 7 months and mine never came back so I went on HRT. I was 39 at the time.

 

[nandro]

I agree with aeliop - synthetic testosterone administration should not be the be all end all of how you feel. Unless your drug use has something to do with what you do for a living (ie pro athlete), it is important to keep things in perspective. Be a human being, father, son, brother, man first, and be a bodybuilder second. I wish you the best man, good luck.[/QUOTE]

wow, someone who actually gets it!

 

[chevy1234]

Hey Maldorf,instead of visit to doc do you think what mature muscle said is something to think about.(125mgs of test a week).I like the sound of it but am i sure to good to be true!

 

[dece870717]

Only time I have felt so crappy when off was because of crappy PCT. Use hcg throughout cycle and nolva 20mg/ed and clomid 100mg/ed during PCT and I barely ever have any problems with motivation or strength or anything even when coming off test/tren cycle.

 

[maldorf]

Hey Maldorf,instead of visit to doc do you think what mature muscle said is something to think about.(125mgs of test a week).I like the sound of it but am i sure to good to be true!

Well, if you truly need HRT then it is much more intelligent to go to a doc for help and do it legally. Not only do you not have to worry about breaking the law, you also get your test dirt cheap and all my pins are free. I get 3 months of test for $25 and the quality is much better than anything youre going to find on your own.
Now if youre just looking to do the 125 mg/wk, which is the dose I use, to cruise inbetween your cycles then that would be about the right dose. Problem is youll need to do regular blood work, at least once every 3 months, to keep an eye on things to be safe. Once again, insurance will cover most of that. You dont even want to know how expensive these blood tests are. The ones they run on me cost nearly $400 each time and I end up paying like $20 or so.
If youre going to be on test year long for the rest of your life, you need to have it professionally monitored or you are taking some significant risks.