Non Fat Milk

[Tough Old Man]

Why is Non Fat Milk bad for you when cutting whether it be just a glass or several with your meals? Discuss

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

Why is Non Fat Milk bad for you when cutting whether it be just a glass or several with your meals? Discuss

Who said it was?

 

[Tough Old Man]

Who said it was?

Hi phil I suggested that the guy cutting use water in place of the non fat milk..He is having 4 shakes a day using 8 oz of non fat milk in ea..Doesn't non fat milk have lactose in it (milk sugar) which I thought would not be a good thing when cutting..Am I wrong here...

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

Hi phil I suggested that the guy cutting use water in place of the non fat milk..He is having 4 shakes a day using 8 oz of non fat milk in ea..Doesn't non fat milk have lactose in it (milk sugar) which I thought would not be a good thing when cutting..Am I wrong here...

Thats a tough question.......most if not all people have some small allergic reaction to lactose. Can this reaction make you hold water? Maybe. Will it be noticeable? Maybe.....but this is such a minor factor. Non fat milk is a great protein source. Now, the last few days before a show will correct any mistakes in food allergies that allow your body to hold any excess water. I say drink non fat milk........just my opinion.

 

[xmyb420x]

Hi phil I suggested that the guy cutting use water in place of the non fat milk..He is having 4 shakes a day using 8 oz of non fat milk in ea..Doesn't non fat milk have lactose in it (milk sugar) which I thought would not be a good thing when cutting..Am I wrong here...

If im not mistaken, milk sugar is actually pretty low on the glycemic index. So unless hes nearly no carbing it, it would be fine right ?

And Phil is correct of course. Everyone is different, and its probably worth it to keep it in the diet to some degree.

 

[Galloping Gazelle]

Why is Non Fat Milk bad for you when cutting whether it be just a glass or several with your meals? Discuss

I don't agree, I believe fat free milk even though fairly low on the G.I. still contains too much sugar compaired to protein in its make up. Also unless its organic is loaded with hormones and has been heat treated to prolong the life of the milk on the shelf which kills any healthy aspects of the milk. Green leafy veggies have way more calcium than milk. Try organic fat free milk instead or just use water.

 

[Ashop]

ive been using organic fat free lately and love it.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

MILK

Organic milk is homogenized and pasteurized just like un organic milk to help prolong shelf life. Try raw milk and let the cream raise to the top, throw it out, you have less fat raw milk. Milk has a great ratio of protein/carbs/fats.....with the less fat version I add olive oil.

 

[tomsawyer]

Lactose and high carbs..not a good thing for diet/cutting IMO.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Really

Lactose and high carbs..not a good thing for diet/cutting IMO.

Lactose AND high in carbs? Now, this is detrimental how? Please explain the lactose problem and the carb problem here.

 

[Tough Old Man]

Lactose AND high in carbs? Now, this is detrimental how? Please explain the lactose problem and the carb problem here.

By Dave Palumbo...The reason your spending your hard earned money on a WHEY ISOLATE is to avoid the LACTOSE. Using MILK in the shake, is just adding the lactose back in. Remember, lactose (which most people can't digest) is milk sugar that gets fermented in most people's intestinal tract. When that happens, you get gassy and you may get diarrhea. This will cause malabsorption of your meal. Bad Idea.

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[PHIL HERNON]

HONESTLY

By Dave Palumbo...The reason your spending your hard earned money on a WHEY ISOLATE is to avoid the LACTOSE. Using MILK in the shake, is just adding the lactose back in. Remember, lactose (which most people can't digest) is milk sugar that gets fermented in most people's intestinal tract. When that happens, you get gassy and you may get diarrhea. This will cause malabsorption of your meal. Bad Idea.

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THIS IS WHY I USE LBAs.......I THINK I HAVE BEEN OVER THIS 1000 TIMES. IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH MY ADVICE, THEN I WOULD LISTEN TO DAVE PALUMBO. REMIND ME, WHAT SHOW DID HE WIN?

 

[Dangkolo]

Hmmm

Lactose and high carbs..not a good thing for diet/cutting IMO.

Can you back this up? Not good for dieting? Well I happen to drink milk everyday and I am in the best shape that I have ever been in.

Just my 2cents

 

[PHIL HERNON]

well

Can you back this up? Not good for dieting? Well I happen to drink milk everyday and I am in the best shape that I have ever been in.

Just my 2cents

I will take your 2 cents and raise you a quarter!

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Funny

Can you back this up? Not good for dieting? Well I happen to drink milk everyday and I am in the best shape that I have ever been in.

Just my 2cents

I love it when these "gurus" that never stepped on a stage write something in a magazine then everyone believes it. Shoot, guys that took BARE NAKED LAST in some of the shows I won are quoted on here .....this is why I deal with my clients ONLY and not give out any info on here. I do not have time to explain myself over and over and over again. I wrote out an explanation earlier in this thread that people seem to miss or not understand.

 

[Dangkolo]

I love it when these "gurus" that never stepped on a stage write something in a magazine then everyone believes it. Shoot, guys that took BARE NAKED LAST in some of the shows I won are quoted on here .....this is why I deal with my clients ONLY and not give out any info on here. I do not have time to explain myself over and over and over again. I wrote out an explanation earlier in this thread that people seem to miss or not understand.

It's like wildfire, one person say something and poooof! everyone is burning to know and get the holy grail. Everyone wants to make things so complicated, I am not above anyone and have been there myself. But I have learned that it is VERY BASIC!

 

[mrsoul]

i love milk. it does a body good!

 

[PHIL HERNON]

YES

It's like wildfire, one person say something and poooof! everyone is burning to know and get the holy grail. Everyone wants to make things so complicated, I am not above anyone and have been there myself. But I have learned that it is VERY BASIC!

IF YOU ARE HOLDING WATER OR NOT DIGESTING YOUR FOOD, MAYBE YOU NEED TO CHEW SLOWER, TAKE AN ENZYME, EAT LESS CALORIES, CHECK YOUR RATIOS, CHANGE SUPPLEMENTS, ETC..........

 

[hank]

OUCH!

Guy's listen to Phil! He knows what he's talking about! all you really need is the LBA's. Phil thoses babies are gonna weigh 15Lbs with 3% BF if you give your ife those LBA's. We are on to something here. "Want a massive kid drink LBA's"

THIS IS WHY I USE LBAs.......I THINK I HAVE BEEN OVER THIS 1000 TIMES. IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH MY ADVICE, THEN I WOULD LISTEN TO DAVE PALUMBO. REMIND ME, WHAT SHOW DID HE WIN?

 

[mrsoul]

ya know what goed good with milk,.......... cookies! sorry. 3 weeks out. really want a cookie. and milk.