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npc judge

feelnfit

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not to start a war... but the last npc show i went to a couple of the 7 judges was kinda out of shape. i know they are probally great in judging and know their stuff but should they set some kinda example? there was some guys that judged that also competed in other shows.
what is your opion? should a judge also represent bodybuilding in apearence too as well as knowledge ?
 
uhh imo

not really.... they are just judging peoples physiques based on the rules of the npc.. if theyve got the knowledge then thats all they need to place the athletes in a show... even though if they were in some sort of shape that would be a plus.
but when it comes to personal trainers or aerobics instructors that are either a buck 50 or a fattie then thats just wrong, and it pisses me off.. what kind of example are THEY setting??? they need to get their ass in gear FIRST.
 
It would be nice to see all the Judges in shape, but I'd rather have a judge that knows what they're looking at than someone that's in shape that doesn't. Most of the Judges I know compete or used to compete on the National level. The ones that don't compete anymore, still train but...don't follow the strict BBing diet.
 
I agree it would be nice to see a few of the judges in better shape. In the MO state alot of the judges just looked like regualr people. I never really talked to anybody but there , the show had a combination of men and women judges and really like I said they looked like Joe average off the street. Now obviously the have the credentials to be a judge and thats all thats necessary but for you guy looking for advice after the show from judges on how to make improvements, it's kinda hard to take advice from a person telling you that you need to bring up this part or that part and your looking at them and the are physically not impressive. But they are the judges and they are the ones who determine who wins and who loses. But I agree it would be nice to have former bodybuilders as judges. It would be easier to take constructive criticism from a person who has done what you
did than from somebody who hasn't. Just my opinon.




Maverick
 
LOL thats like sayin Chad Nicholls dont know jack shit cuase he dont got a great physique hahaha. I agree PTs should be in good shape first though.

In NJ suprisingly a lot of the judges are bodybuilders n shit so they are in decent shape or at least just big and muscular. People dont like judges i dont think tho, at bodyrock every time Bob Chicarillo said give the judges a big hand (he did it like 10 times) all he got was BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! LMAO it was great
 
actually I train at athe same chad trains at when he's in springfield and he's f'n huge bro. He may not be in contest shape but 6'4" 280-290 is nothing to sneeze at. He's yoked bro.




Maverick
 
I'd like to know that judges have at least competed at or near the level they are judging at some point in the past, although they need not have super-impressive physiques (currently).

This is the case, for instance in academia: You don't have people teaching Master's level courses who don't have at least that level of education. Someone judging poems should have written, not just read poetry, IMHO. They needn't have been a world famous prolific writer, but they should have at least attempted it...

Previous competitive experience is one thing that I personally think should color a judge's subjective evaluation of a physique. Someone who has indeed attempted to get amazing conditioning, or develop massive legs or fully develop high insertion / short muscle-belly calves will evaluate athletes w/ these aspects of their physiques differently than someone who has never been 4% body fat or who has never felt the agony of 20 rep squats, etc.

This is not to say that this experience should be (IMHO) the #1 overriding force (which athlete suffered the most, for instance) in a judge's decision-making, but I think it should be a part of the picture.

I have done shows where I've been beated by larger, but much less conditioned athletes (apples and oranges). Those judges who were actively competing judged me higher than those who hadn't competed, b/c, in part, I think they value conditioning more so b/c they know what it takes to get that. Those judges certainly value size, but perhaps feel that that size is not as important, or may even be considered "false" size, b/c the whole package (with conditioning) was not presented (and that size might not have been there if the athlete had been more conditioned)...

-R
 
great post randy,

he is correct, i have seen the larger and shorter, (what a combo) place ahead of the highly conditioned physique he brought to the stage. having known what it takes to get that conditioning, yet ive not gotten glutes yet as he has, is highly respectable to me, more so than the size. it is impressive to see the size but to what cost, larger and thicker waist? i got my score sheets for the az show today, 6th out of 17. not what i wanted but i realize at middelweight im to tall and standing next to the guy who won the class he is 3 inches shorter and in better condition. i think he placed 6th at the usa a week later. anyway, i need to get in touch with you randy, im trying to descide the plan for next year. take care
 

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