OK my skin is F*cked. . . ACCUTANE?

[TooPowerful4u]

Before i get a lecture here, im well aware of all the other stuff. Iv been prescribed minocycline, RetinA, clindagel, and iv tried the high doses of b5. None of it worked. I break out like a mofo on my shoulders, back, and arms every once in a while, im scarring up, i dont like it, i need to stop this shit dead in its tracks. only alternative left ACCUTANE.

Can somebody please advice me on how to take this and the precautions to take (additional supps to support liver health, etc..). I have just finnished orals 2 weeks ago, so im taking another month or two before i start the accutane, il still be clean. Im going to run an injectable only cycle sometime during the time im taking accutane cause i know its liver harsh and i know you must run accutane 6 months. 5'8 current 230 bloated (probably 215 stable) 22yrs old. I had planned on doin it through a doc but its a royal pain in the ass, hes being a douche n tryin to prescribe other shit (some of which iv already tried and failed!), and wont put me on it unless i do blood tests like every 2 weeks throughout. Goin through my doc is like 2x the price that i can get it from other places haha, so i wanna do this on my own best i can, i know of lots of people on the boards who have done it with success, i think i can too with the proper support and advice.

 

[AWN2004]

Let me add in my own opinion here from someone who has had very oily skin all my life. I know why you are writing this right now. Correct me if Im wrong but Im willing to bet your skin is freaking the fuck out right about now......that would be about a week or so after your contest right? Pro Tan, oil, and all the food you ate afterward is reaking havoc on your system right now. Not to mention all that water under your skin pushing upwards and the pressure forcing all that oil out. Its a recipe for acne post contest. The biggest thing you can do and it will help the most is your diet. What I noticed is that when I use an androgen and I hold water, I break out. I just did a show and my skin really cleared up toward the end due to the anti-e I was using (Aromasin) and the clean diet. Ive used all the same shit you speak of....oral antibiotics, topicals, ect but the biggest thing that helped me was a clean diet and just being aware of my health in general. I was going to do 40mgs of Accutane EOD and I have a friend who is a doctor and he told me to wait it out. The same doctor was also in my class at the show. So he knows whats up. I know several people who did test and accutane and nothing changed in the readings of their liver values. Now granted we are talking like 600mgs a week nothing crazy. Before you reach for the accutane try tanning a bit more and cleaning your diet up. The essential fats I started using really made the most difference I think. Give it a shot and see what happens. If you want me to go into further detail as to what I did...shoot me a PM.

 

[bigbadasian]

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|--[\\\]>-------- well, i'm not one to preach, i tell it how it is and from experience. I have been on 2 cycles of accutane, 1st lasted 26 weeks and the 2nd 16 weeks. It's the best thing since sliced bread. IMO, dont even waste time with the other stuff. my doc. was origially NOT going to put me on 'tane the 2nd time around, but i said, fine, if you dont do it, i'm going else where, i also told him that the other meds made me sick to my stomach and 'tane was the only thing that made me feel ok. he knew it was bullshit, but as a doc, he had to listen. I DID make sure i did the constant bloodwork every 4 weeks. get insurance too, b/c even with the generic kind, it was like $100 every 6 weeks with a co-pay. My 1st run, i was completely clean until week 17 or 18, then i started 200mgs of test and 200mgs of Eq and my skin was clear as day still, now the 2nd time around, i did inj. from day 1 of 'tane and no problems as well, i feel you can run inj. ONLY no orals b/c 'tane is HARSH! the worst sides that i had was drying up of the nose, nose bleeds here and there, and the chapped lips werent fun either, but carry chap stick. I say get on 'tane, i saw you when you were here last and i think it'll do you wonders.

 

[basskiller]

here is a little trick y=that maay nelp you,,, iy halepe manyothers that I;ve traineg=d.

crub down in the shower and then then fill the tub up iy=th hot water abd add a soda capfull of pool chlorineand soak a couple times a week.. easy,but i works

 

[maxsupplements]

i gotta say, it was DEFINATELY worth it

i also was on 'tane for 2 treatements. I first took it for 20 weeks straight, then again for 18 weeks straight. if you are goin to do it though, i definatly recommend at least having some type of doctor monitor your liver enzymes. it can really mess with those, and the fact that you have run some orals recently, i personally dont think that a 6 week break is enough. one little pointer, dont let it get you down, i was single at the time of taking it, and seemed to have a small depression problem with the doses. i was taking 40mg the first time around and then 20mg the second time around. and the second time i didnt notice anything. both times i took it i was clean, and now that i have done a few cycles, my zits still stay gone. i get a little broke out here and there (blood level fluctuations) but none like the nodular acne i used to get. you know the deep ones that you cannot pop, but they hurt like a mofo.
I must say, that was the best thing i ever did for myself, it helped my confidence a ton, cause when your goin to the lake or the pool, no girls want to see some dude with HUGE zits on his back, kinda nasty i thought. I used to be scared to take my shirt off due to the zits, but now i am ripping it off!

 

[MikeS]

All those antibiotics and stuff suck compared to accutane. I used it when it first came out in the early 80s, it was a miracle. Unfortunately by then I had some scarring and so I cant change that.
You could do injectables (no 17AAs) but no orals.

 

[Tzzz]

Had the depression thing too after about a month, once your skin clears up, u'll be a much happier person though. What about a bloodtest after 2weeks and after 6? If they're both ok (and u keep it easy on other things), u're pretty safe i'd say.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

um guys lol, i appreciate the responses but i know its great lol i read enough about it to know people love it.

I still didnt get any advice on what doses to use, i posted my stats, and what supplements to take to make the proper precautions and insure il be fine. Im not going for blood tests so i gotta be safe. I will be going on accutane after iv been off for about 10 weeks, at the same time im probably jumping back on cycle all injectable as i know accutane is liver harsh and so are orals. Can sum1 give me a little more in depth info and advice on this? thanx again guys

 

[maxsupplements]

well then take 40mg / day

well then take 40mg per day. and if your skin starts turning yellow, youll know youve gone too far.
personally, that stuff is so harsh on the liver i wouldnt do it unless i did the liver tests. you gotta have someone monitor this for you, you can really mess yourself up, plus vitamin A (?) levels can get high in your blood and you can have some other side effects that arent so pleasant.

so, if you are worried about not taking the tests, then i would only do like 20mg per day and take some milk thistle and some liv52 if you can get it, and then even beyond that, make sure you eat clean., thats very important. if your gonna do some inj. then dont do over 400mg of total aa's. the use can increase your oil levels, and then clogs pores, and then you get zits, and the increased sweating doesnt help either, my dermatologist recommends if you are sweating actively that is okay, its when the sweat dries and you cool down that it isnt a good idea, all that sweat clogs the pores with the toxins your body was depleting as you sweat.

if it was me, i would not do any aa's. and only take 20mg if you are not gonna get the blood tests.

 

[Got Juice]

my doc put me on 40mg ED, worked like a charm. that was prolly 2 years ago and im on now and i only get a couple here and there, but not the deep as sists looking things that would spray blood all over the mirror when i squeezed them.. lol

that was some sick shit, i remember i lived at home and my mom would always bitch about blood and gook being all over the mirror from me.. lol

also, i used the generic for a few months and i wasnt happy with the results, then she put me on actual accutane and i liked it much better. so if you can get the real deal i would.

also, i still 2-3 years later have some decent scaring on my back.. kinda sucks but what can you do.. just take care of it b4 it gets really bad.

good luck on your road to clear skin!!

 

[flexmaster]

i had acne really bad and the doc put me on as high as 160mg ed...2 40mg gel caps 2x a day. this was on cycle and still worked great. IP's accutane is great, my gf is using it right now, just make sure to chew it up. i would start at 40mg/day and after 2 mon. if it's not working as well as you like up it to 60mg+/day.

 

[TooPowerful4u]

just make sure to chew it up. i would start at 40mg/day and after 2 mon. if it's not working as well as you like up it to 60mg+/day.

yea this is what i think i might do. thanx. I dont have HORRIBLE acne, just when im on cycle or PCT or post contest. If im clean from supps, so is my skin. I just dont want to have to worry about this anymore, its a pain in the azz n nothin else worked. This was the last resort, lets see how it works.

 

[BULK_CITY]

I USED to have pretty bad skin (very oily and it would somehow get really dry too and medium to a lot of pimples)... I've tried a lot of crap and finally found a method that works very well (btw im only 21, just turned so its still hormones pumping)

shower when i wake up
shave THEN shower; pop pimples if i have any
on face I use clean and clears black head scrub (rub it on face then let it sit for 45-60 seconds then rinse off) then apply clean and clears acne reducer wash (the one in the pink/purple/white tube) 45-50 seconds then rinse off

get out of shower, gently pad dry face, apply a shine control moisturizer (i use clean and clears shien control moisturizer) use very little

if i have a bad pimple i apply any liquid with salylic acid (pour a little on a cotton pad and lightly scrub the pimple with it), do this after the moistureizer and if the pimple is a pain in the ass (big one) i add benzol peroxide by clean and clear (just a little on the pimple)

never let sweat dry on you, rinse it off (ie you do cardio in the morning, take your PWO meal then shower immediately)

getting some sun helps

shower in the morning + after you sweat + 1 at night if you feel nasty or you can just rinse your face with cetaphil face wash

thats all i do and i rarely have a pimple or oily face