painful gh?

richie34 · Dec 5, 2006

does anyone know why my hgh is painful after injecting its (blue top) and even hurts in the shoulders! has anyone else experienced this? bit worried now richie

A50# · Dec 5, 2006

richie34 said:
does anyone know why my hgh is painful after injecting its from puri (blue top) and even hurts in the shoulders! has anyone else experienced this? bit worried now richie

Maybe you didnt mix it right? Are you injecting IM or SUBQ?

bigusa2006123 · Dec 5, 2006

Poor Quality HGH

Sounds like low grade Generic HGH-try Jintropin its around the same price anyway$3iu or less...

richie34 · Dec 5, 2006

i put 4ml water with each 10iu of powder i used 2ml first but after it hurt so much i tried 4ml cant say its much different though! ive also tried im because sq was so uncomftable but it hurts in muscle also. my freind has same gh and says his isnt to bad its agreat price too! dam though i can put up with it but surely cant be good for it to feel like this (health wise) left little bumps on stomach also. just wondered if i should be worried as for jin being same price its not at all this is quite bit cheaper . by the way im not new to this ive tried jin and loads of ansamone but never had anything like this happen! are any mods about or anyone who knows as i am quite concerned thanks guys richie

km2000 · Dec 5, 2006

mix each 10 iu with 1 ml of water, you are mixing wat too much water in there, tha could be the cause of the pain

richie34 · Dec 5, 2006

thanks km2000 i will give it a go, but i cant see how using less water can help i use two and a half iu ed and that means i inject half a ml each time , doesnt seem like way too much , still im desperate and will give it a go anyway! when using ansamone i would put one ml water with each of the 4iu vials i had and shot half a ml ed to get two iu , and its not the amount of ius as ive done 8iu eod before with ansamone ? anyone else help ?

OuchThatHurts · Dec 5, 2006

richie34 said:
thanks km2000 i will give it a go, but i cant see how using less water can help i use two and a half iu ed and that means i inject half a ml each time , doesnt seem like way too much , still im desperate and will give it a go anyway! when using ansamone i would put one ml water with each of the 4iu vials i had and shot half a ml ed to get two iu , and its not the amount of ius as ive done 8iu eod before with ansamone ? anyone else help ?

I hope I'm wrong but the GH you have is most likely garbage. You're having a reaction to impurities, broken amino acid chains, or a 192 (most likely) amino acid chain. Your welts are due to GH antibodies which are likely eating even your real GH from your pituitary and the immune response is making you feel like shit.

km2000 · Dec 6, 2006

OuchThatHurts said:
I hope I'm wrong but the GH you have is most likely garbage. You're having a reaction to impurities, broken amino acid chains, or a 192 (most likely) amino acid chain. Your welts are due to GH antibodies which are likely eating even your real GH from your pituitary and the immune response is making you feel like shit.

ya that was gonna be my next response too, hopfully its wrong but the same thing happened to me with some garbage gh,richie24 now the big question where did you get it? board sponser?

bigbadasian · Dec 6, 2006

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|---[\\\\]>--------- Painful? i have never heard of painful inj. but i have heard of ppl getting red welts a day after. i have found that mixing an xtra cc of water in there helps solve that problem.

fred9 · Dec 6, 2006

OuchThatHurts said:
I hope I'm wrong but the GH you have is most likely garbage. You're having a reaction to impurities, broken amino acid chains, or a 192 (most likely) amino acid chain. Your welts are due to GH antibodies which are likely eating even your real GH from your pituitary and the immune response is making you feel like shit.

lol...u really think anti-bodies will have a local reaction to the injection site? It takes a few months, approx 3, to have a large amount of anti-bodies that will cause problems..
most likely its the impurity of hgh or you have a reaction to preservatives like m-Cresol..

richie34 · Dec 6, 2006

now i realy am confused ! one reply for using more water and one for using less water! sh*t what now right as i said earlier its from purui and yes sponsar on this board. as i have tried using extra water already im gonna try what KM said and actualy use less but am pretty worried by all this antibody talk! and what i mean by painful is after the shot it aches as if it was test in there , nothing you perhaps couldnt get used to but im not being a pussy it does nt feel very healthy at all ! plus i run test for 12 weeks and on gh maybe forever lol so doubt i will go on using this stuff . icant believe noone else has had this happen ! cheers though guys.

OuchThatHurts · Dec 6, 2006

fred9 said:
lol...u really think anti-bodies will have a local reaction to the injection site? It takes a few months, approx 3, to have a large amount of anti-bodies that will cause problems..
most likely its the impurity of hgh or you have a reaction to preservatives like m-Cresol..

Then explain to me why people frequently have this same reaction to 192aa GH. I serioisly would like to know. Nothing I read when I had this same problem said anything about preservatives - only impurities, broken chains, and 192aa GH. Obviously the body is attacking the foreign substance if a welt appears. Please explain this. Also, as far as I can understand, GenSci is the only place approved to sell the stuff. Where is the rest of the GH being made and what method are they using to manufacture the recombinant amino acid sequence?

fred9 · Dec 6, 2006

OuchThatHurts said:
Then explain to me why people frequently have this same reaction to 192aa GH. I serioisly would like to know. Nothing I read when I had this same problem said anything about preservatives - only impurities, broken chains, and 192aa GH. Obviously the body is attacking the foreign substance if a welt appears. Please explain this. Also, as far as I can understand, GenSci is the only place approved to sell the stuff. Where is the rest of the GH being made and what method are they using to manufacture the recombinant amino acid sequence?

if you read the 'manual' (dont know exact english word

) of humatrope then u can read that even humatrope (191aa) can develope welts..the explanation they give is the preservatives..
personally i think it has a lot to do with the impurities...Anyone ever tried Ansomone? Cause Ansomone was tested as 192AA but they were very pure, no impurities detected..Should be interesting if some Ansomone users can give some input bout this..
By the way Hygetropin is gonna be tested soon, so when it turns out its 191AA then Gensci is not the only one that can create 191aa with their technology
I know i havent give any good answers, but it sounds so strange to me that 192AA is related to those welts...i postes a while ago a few studies bout 191aa vs 192 on ar.com..u can read overthere that it takes a while before the anti-bodies are gonna built up in your body...those welts are most of the times immediatly...gonna paste those studies later on..

LEX · Dec 6, 2006

I thought the only thing painfull about GH was the cost....sounds like you got issues.

LEX · Dec 7, 2006

it almost sounds like you mixed it the aa instead of sterile water.

OuchThatHurts · Dec 7, 2006

fred9 said:
if you read the 'manual' (dont know exact english word) of humatrope then u can read that even humatrope (191aa) can develope welts..the explanation they give is the preservatives..
personally i think it has a lot to do with the impurities...Anyone ever tried Ansomone? Cause Ansomone was tested as 192AA but they were very pure, no impurities detected..Should be interesting if some Ansomone users can give some input bout this..
By the way Hygetropin is gonna be tested soon, so when it turns out its 191AA then Gensci is not the only one that can create 191aa with their technology
I know i havent give any good answers, but it sounds so strange to me that 192AA is related to those welts...i postes a while ago a few studies bout 191aa vs 192 on ar.com..u can read overthere that it takes a while before the anti-bodies are gonna built up in your body...those welts are most of the times immediatly...gonna paste those studies later on..

The manual is the Clinical Pharmacology and is inserted with the product packaging so sometimes just called the "insert". GenSci is the only company in CHINA. Other manufacturers have successfully recreated the chain (Lilly, i.e. Humatrope). Any rHGH can cause welts. The chances of reaction is just much lower for 191aa. Also, even good from the lab rHGH can still be ruined. The HGH strand is a very complex three-dimensional structure that can break apart very easily. These broken pieces still have biological value and can create an immune response. I just got done reading that a few days ago. As for impurities, that's not much comfort either. Preservatives? Sure why not? I wish him luck. Some people have no problems with 191 or 192 which is why two people can buy from the same place and one has a reaction and the other is fine.