Please Need Help

bueagles37 · May 4, 2006

Hey guys,
Been here about 6 months but just started to post. I just read Baldnazi's story and i was very sad that this happened to someone in the BB community, but unfortunately it does happen with the drugs that we take. I myself am 5'5 and weight 235 in the offseason so you can imagine how big I get on my frame. I have been using for about 6 years. I really need a kick in the ass from some of you tough. Please say whatever you want. I am giving permission to bash me or flame me. I really need some sense because I take everything I can get my hands on. I am like a kid in a candy store when it comes to this because I want to be soemone in this sport. I just did my first show at light weight 147. Yes that is right 147, I lost 84 pounds. Anyways i won the show and bought the roof of the place at such a light weight. A lot of people say that I looked like a light heavyweight with my upperbody.

Anyways my cycle are very big. I mean 2000 mg of test, 150mgs of anadrol, 4 ius of growth, 10 ius of insulin when I wake up and then when I go to bed, 900 mgs. of deca, and then alittle tren like 350 mgs. Some days I wake up and puke for no reason. I have even woken up and puked some blood in the past. I am only 26 years old, but want that damn card so bad. It is the first thing I think about when I wake up and the last thing I think about when I go to bed. I just need some help from people on how to cycle alittle better and in moderation. my next cycle that i have is

300 tabs of anadrol
1 bttle of insulin
1 50 ml bottle of tren 200 mgs. I know a lot of mgs from tren, but my friend made it just for me
2 10ml bttles of test 450
1 10 ml bttle of Equipoise 325
1 10 ml bttle of deca 325
1 100 ml bttle of synterol (taken like big A wants me to take it)

If it is too much let me know. Please I have been in the game for a while and even did some time in jail for this damn stuff. Please if you are newbie do not reply. Nothing against anyone but I need someone who has been around the block. No disrespect to anyone but I need a veternan to help me out. Thanks to everyone and again no disrespect to anyone new. Someday I know the new comers on this board are going to be the top dogs.

bueagles37

km2000 · May 4, 2006

why dont you post your diet? it is not all about the drugs. I just did a decent amature show and never went over 1500mg total per week. the food will get you big and dense not the drugs, probablly not the answer you wanted but it is true

Koevoet · May 4, 2006

Bro, I agree that you should also post your diet, but also some pictures from the show. I was at that show, and am pretty sure I remember you if you won the Lightweight class.

In my humble opinion, I do not think you looked like a light heavyweight. My point in suggesting you post your pics is not to call you out, but allow some of the real pros and judges on here to give you an honest assesment of where you are.

Why did you cut down to 147 instead of 174 to make middleweight?

Boo · May 4, 2006

I may not have a great post count, but at 42yrs I have been around a long time. If your stats are truthful and at 5'5 you are 147 in contest shape, you may well need to face the fact that you are limited in the genetics dept.

When I looked at your cycle, I shit . . . the use of Anadrol is questionable at the best of times ( highly toxic ) and is usually reserved for big boys. For a ( and lets be liberal here assuming you over dieted ) 160?? pound man to use that type of product, not to mention the fact that it's stacked with everything but the kitchen sink . . . it's insane. And you are 160'ish, the rest is fat, useless fat.

Not to get off track or to personal here , but what does that type of useage cost you a month.? Are you in a posisition to put out that type of cash on a pipe dream. And it is a pipe dream, if you have been honest with your stats.

If I were you, I'd take a long hard look in the mirror and be honest with myself. Post some pics here and get some objective opinions, it may help. In the interm, just run a little test ( 500mg's a week ) and stick to the basics. See what that will accomplish for you and get back to us.

Boo.

edge250 · May 4, 2006

@ 5'5" and supposedly hitting that much gear you should be a lightheavy. i call bullshit on the whole thing. if you had to loose 84lbs then you were a major fat ass at 235. post a pic dude, in contest shape, and believe me if the pic aint you the guys here will definetly find out pretty quick.

bueagles37 · May 5, 2006

Boo,
You think I am a fat ass and should be 160 pounds. You are telling this to a person you has worked his ass of to get to 235. People like you make me laugh because you make fun of other people that have dreams. You think it is a pipe dream that is your opinion, but i never said I was going to be a professional and do not rely on this to make money. I post once and this guy thinks he knows my whole life story by calling me a fat ass and a lier. Naive people make me sick.

You make false assumptions of me and I will make false assumptions of you. Ok high school grad you are talking to someone you has a PHd. Go back to school and learn how to talk to people in a respectful manner. I did say that flaming was ok, but I wanted to learn something. That was my first show and I put my cycle thinking that people were going to tell me that I was taking too much. It was too much and I will cut it down.

bueagles37 · May 5, 2006

Boo one more thing. I wanted to see if my cycle was too much and it was. My mission is accomplished in that regards so I will no longer look at this thread. If you have something to say that is fine, but if it directed towards me, do not waste your time because I am done looking at this thread. In the future you might want to get to know someone first and read their other posts before calling them a lier or a fat ass. Since I am new you went a head and made an assumption that is completely false, but hay I cannot blame you for being naive.

bueagles37 · May 5, 2006

Here is a pic, thanks also to edge for calling me a lier. Man you guys might be great bodybuilders and I am starting out, or you may not be, but man treat people with respect. Jeez, I did not cross out my face but here you go. I am pakistanian so you guys are right it took me a long time to compete because I have terrible genetics. I have never really met a Pakistanian bodybuilder. Also if you think I am a fat ass or a lier talk to Jerry Wear I, trained with him for a month or two.

bueagles37 · May 5, 2006

sorry no leg pics, I have chicken legs. I did not tell anyone but I ended up partially tearing up my quad my first week of my diet because of Vitargo. Excuses, Excuses It sucked but made the best of it and did a lot of light compound movements for legs. Terrible legs.

rAJJIN · May 5, 2006

Nice Pics Beugles...Looking pretty damn good there.
Is jerrywear as strong as I here

you know he has his own forum now dont you? drop me a Pm and Ill send you a link if you dont already have it.

anyhow welcome Over... you dont have to take everyones advice or even agree with them...Just use what you feel is helpfull and discard the rest.

My opinion to your original post...
Your 26yrs old man and have been using heavy amounts for
6 years...you look Great man be happy with that... a Pro? naw, its not gonna happen. Even lets say By chance it did do you REALY feel like your ready to stand up there side by side with top level pros? Or will be in the next
6 years (if you live that long at that rate?)

Im sure youve read some Of Phils posts... Listen to him, he has been there and Lived it. Ask him if would have done anything differant if he could go back in time.

Just enjoy being Above average and one of the better in your area...
Shit we dont all have to try and be THE BEST IN THE WORLD.

Goodluck man and Ill hope youll stay around and contribute...

glenihan · May 5, 2006

i think the point was if you dieted down to 147 from 235, you either lost a ton of muscle .. or you were really fat and hence had to lose that much fat to get ripped

usually a guy who is 235 wouldn't diet down past the high 190's

Koevoet · May 5, 2006

bueagles37 said:
sorry no leg pics, I have chicken legs. I did not tell anyone but I ended up partially tearing up my quad my first week of my diet because of Vitargo. Excuses, Excuses It sucked but made the best of it and did a lot of light compound movements for legs. Terrible legs.

Your legs weren't necessarily terrible, just not as good as your upper body.

Why do you think Vitargo caused the tear?

bueagles37 · May 5, 2006

Thanks for the replies,
Yeah I was in the 230's when I was on my diet and I thought for sure I was going to be a middleweight but I just lost a ton of weight early on and my nutritionalist could not believe it. I told him that I lose a lot of weight, I played college football and in training camp (9days) I would usually lose 35 pounds with the heat index. I got down to 176 with like 6 weeks left.

Koervet the reason why I blame Vitargo is because everytime I take creatine I pull a muscle. My old training partner not Jerry told me that Vitargo was great and he did it for the USA's so I gave it a try. I was doing hack squats and there went my quad. It set me back, but what can you do, you just have to keep going. Especially if you are dieting.

I appreciate the replies and I know that I was taking too much. i will definetely cut down a lot.

bueagles37 · May 5, 2006

You mean like your post genious. Substance posting= a post with subsequent information to be guided by facts that will aid or guide. Did your post do that. So isnt your post meaningless. I also got my answer a long time ago. Good job buddy you just made your self look stupid. That is also why I put newbies please do not reply and clearly stated that it was not disrespectful. Read the post man.

Diesel2323 · May 5, 2006

Point taken.

Boo · May 5, 2006

glenihan said:
i think the point was if you dieted down to 147 from 235, you either lost a ton of muscle .. or you were really fat and hence had to lose that much fat to get ripped

usually a guy who is 235 wouldn't diet down past the high 190's

Exactly . . .

I am sorry you took offensive to the post, I may well have worded it better. But, if you come down that much in weight to hit the stage, you carry too much fat in the off season. That's a fact.

I also read you have a PhD, in what may I ask? And from Where? It seems to me someone with a PhD may well have had better sense then to blindly enter into a drug program like the one you outlined. You should use some of your exceptional education and research abilities to look into things ( AAS useage and protocols) before you start such a program.

Peace,
Boo.

lucian · May 5, 2006

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holy shit!! thats a lotta stuff. u do slin before bed?? 10iu???r u nuts??? and 150mg of drol a day?? wow, you still are only a light wt? i think the bros are right, your diet has gotta be the problem, you probably wouldnt need all that gear if you had your diet down, OR>>> some /most of the gear fake. that could also be the problem. you think your using drol but its like vit b or somethin. you think your on 2000mg of test and its really like 200 mg cause its underdosed. not messing w you just that its happened before in the past. you got any pics before you started the diet?? take a look on the board and see what doses are acceptible, cause these are not!!!! dont kill yourself.
lucian

tattoojr · May 5, 2006

This is not directed at anyone, but a PhD. with sense? C'mon now. J.R.

bueagles37 · May 6, 2006

Boo,

No hard feelings and you are right I do hold fat in the off season, but who doesn't in the off season. If I am going to compete at light weight again I will not get up to 235 because losing that much weight is just not smart. As for school I went to Walden University Online to get my PH.d in Applied Management and Decision Sciences. It is also accredited by the NCA which is the highest regional accredidation, but I know I am a lier so no body is going to believe me right tatoo jr. (not directed towards anyone, then who is the cmon geared towards) People do not believe me when I say that I am 235 in the offseason and then go to 147. I post a pic and then no body comes back and says that they were wrong.

Lucian you are definetely right as well about everything because I think it was too much and maybe fake. Boo I should have some common sense with a Phd to be taking so much gear, so I have a PH.d I should now everything, that is absolutely ridiculous. This is coming from a 42 year old man, who tells me to have common sense. Boo please stop posting or really choose your words wisely. Every 3 months I was going to an anti aging clinic in my area and was getting blood work. My liver enzymes were fine and so was my blood pressure. I would get everything looked at and it all came back fine. So that is why I would take so much because I was fine. Trust me I am not going to take that much and then go to the doctor and let him tell me that I am in a lot of trouble. What would you guys do if you are taking a lot and the tests were coming back stating that you are fine. Would you worry or would you continue. The guy I go through is underground and makes his stuff, so I think that you are right about that for sure. It is either underdosed or fake.

BigA you have a great website and I think that there is a lot of people that are on here that have a great insight on bodybuilding, but I am done here. I have an honest question and people question everything about me. I understand that there are many people that come on this website and maybe do not tell the truth, but I am not one of those people. Diesel comes on this post and says I cant stand people who post useless information, directed towards me. I made him look like a fool because he totally undermined his own question. It is also possible to get a Phd at 26 if you go to an adult accelerated school which enables you to get a degree quicker for people whom choose to work and go to schoo onlinel at the same time. That is what I did. I do not have to explain myself anymore. Good luck everyone on this board in life and in upcoming bb shows and powerlifting competitions. Peace.

bueagles37