Pro Hormones $ ?

Ashop · Apr 11, 2015

g0ttequila said:
30mg last time. I've gone higher a cycle before, but didn't really make a lot of difference with me. I'm only around 185lbs though..

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30mg seems to be just about the perfect dose for EPI.

Mike Arnold · Apr 11, 2015

gshoty said:
Looked at Celtic`s website. I see they have a superdrol like compound available. Would you have to run test with these products? Wil it lessen sides or as long as you have anti est on hand your good?

You only need an AI when estrogen is an issue...and very few legal orals aromatize, so there would be no need for AI's with the vast majority of them.

Mike Arnold · Apr 11, 2015

Freddy Mercury said:
Pro Hormones are most of the time, going to be worse on the body. And have way worse adverse effects than reg AAS's. Gyno and high liver enzymes are to be expected.

Not this again. Almost 15 years later and we still have people saying this stuff?

ALL of these products are "regular AAS". All methylated orals, whether they were a prescription or not, present the same risks. Some are more toxic than others, but it is this way with all orals. Just like some legal orals are more toxic than some script orals, you also have some script orals that are more toxic than legal orals.

Saying that legal methyls/PH's/designers (whatever you want to call them) are almost always going "to be worse on the body" and have "way worse adverse side effects" is completely WRONG.

Every oral steroid needs to be evaluated on a case by case basis. You can't say all legal methyls are "bad" just because they are legal, as if a drug's legal status determines its side effects risk, just like you can't say all script drugs are inherently safer just because they are a prescription. This is faulty thinking and way off base.

Mike Arnold · Apr 11, 2015

jt7 said:
i looked on celtic labs as well, is there a product that would give some size and hardness without any water retention that they still sell?

Yes, plenty of them. Their M-sten product is great, but it will give you more than just a "little" size while making you harder and drier. Mg per mg, it is a more potent muscle builder than any prescription/traditional AAS, but since it is a non-aromatizing steroid, you can also expect dry, hard gains.

Mike Arnold · Apr 11, 2015

gshoty said:
Phs could be helpful if for some reason you can't inject. I would love for someone knowledgeable on this to chime in on how exactly to run one of these safely and effectively

There is literally 15 years worth of information all over the web. Within 10 seconds of searching you would have a virtual library of knowledge at your finger tips. In short, basically all legal steroids can be run just as safely as script steroids--you just need to make sure that dose and duration is suitable for the specific drug you are using--and that information is everywhere.

Mike Arnold · Apr 11, 2015

gshoty said:
Thanks for your input. Yeah like what you said about the Hdrol, I would hate to put it in your body and get no results assuming everything else is on point. I believe h drol is meant to convert to turinabol. Did you run test with the Epi? How long did results hold on for?

H-drol is active in its original state. The whole T-bol conversion thing was just an advertising tactic. Yes, it converts to T-bol, but at such a small rate it makes almost no difference. H-drol is its own drug, but it is rather weak, so I pretty much never recommend it.

Dezzy · Apr 11, 2015

Mike do you think we will see some of my favorites like Epistane and Methyldiazrinol on the UG market soon like superdrol? They are great compounds.

Mike Arnold · Apr 11, 2015

Dezzy said:
Mike do you think we will see some of my favorites like Epistane and Methyldiazrinol on the UG market soon like superdrol? They are great compounds.

I have no idea.

Vol. 4 · Apr 11, 2015

Mike Arnold said:
I have no idea.

I'm still waiting for Phera

dizzee · Apr 11, 2015

g0ttequila said:
Epistane is awesome stuff... In about 3 weeks time I see great recoup effects. Fullness and hardness. It's slow to kick in and it doesn't punch hard like dbol or test p, you gradually see differences every day. Great for cutting and recouping.
Imo H-drol only gave me high bp and no gains.

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[lang=de]which lab/brand have you used ?[/lang]

Milkisforbabies · Apr 11, 2015

Methylstenbolone and DMZ are both very strong steroids that are great for hardness and vascularity. They are stacked in a compound called Super DMZ 2. This compound is banned but some people still have it in stock on the interwebz.