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Restricted Calorie Diets make you live longer!?!?!

Johnny Smiles

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Did anyone else see this Oprah episode:eek:
yeah, i was watching Oprah:cool:

anyway, the show was about people that ate a calorie restricted diet in order to stimulate a response from the body to live longer.
they had a doctor interviewed and he was saying it could work!?!

one guy ate 1600 calories a day AND WORKED OUT:eek:
another guy ate 1700 calories and his wife ate like 1400 calories.
they said they felt great and had more energy than ever. they had been doing it for more than 7 years!

thoughts? -JS
 
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:( 1600 calories?! I eat more than that before 11am. I would starve to death eating so little. I suppose your body gets used to it, but geez. I mean, my breakfast is close to 900 calories by itself.
 
:( 1600 calories?! I eat more than that before 11am. I would starve to death eating so little. I suppose your body gets used to it, but geez. I mean, my breakfast is close to 900 calories by itself.

This kind of diet would only work for the regular person. If we did that we'd wither away and the less LBM you have the less calories you'd need. We'd be extremely hungry just cause of the fact our body uses up so much energy just sitting on our asses.
 
Did anyone else see this Oprah episode:eek:
yeah, i was watching Oprah:cool:

anyway, the show was about people that ate a calorie restricted diet in order to stimulate a response from the body to live longer.
they had a doctor interviewed and he was saying it could work!?!

one guy ate 1600 calories a day AND WORKED OUT:eek:
another guy ate 1700 calories and his wife ate like 1400 calories.
they said they felt great and had more energy than ever. they had been doing it for more than 7 years!

thoughts? -JS

They said they worked out (whatever that means)...I could walk for 30 minutes daily like they do and eat 1,700 calories too...and have energy too. Very little exertion needs very little calories...you will see results. But as a bodybuilder, training balls to the wall daily, that will not cut it...I might be able to pull that off for like a day or two, but not long nor do I feel like trying to do so. We like to grow muscle, they are concern more about overall wellbeing!

These are for people who are thinking from the wellness point of view and makes sense if you are trying to control your health and weight!
 
I know its still from wikipedia, BUT At least i know they are not Bullshit , Because its About Defiency, Why would they lie about this...

Pretty interesting that You dont need Carbohydrates whether they are Complex or Simple , Dont need Trans fat(Thats an easy one), Dont need Unsaturated Fat and No Omega 6 Fatty acids.
 

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Alot of free radicals are released through eating and digesting food causing cellular damage. So a lower calorie diet can decrease some of that damage. As far as bodybuilders go no it will not help us achieve what we want. If living as long as you can is the number one goal then carring around alot of muscle will probably shorten your life span due to the amount of free radicals that go along with our diets as well as the stress the heart has to endure from pushing the blood through all that extra mass. Look at Jack LaLane once he hit around 40 his goal was to loose a pound of muscle a year for something like 20 years so that he coyld live longer and it seems to have worked for him. That said. I have decided a long time ago to live life the way I choose and accept what happens.
 
This is why resveratrol is making such waves in the research community now. It has the same effect on preventing aging and effects the same gene expression as a CR diet except one doesn't need to be on a CR diet.
 
This is why resveratrol is making such waves in the research community now. It has the same effect on preventing aging and effects the same gene expression as a CR diet except one doesn't need to be on a CR diet.

i get so tired of everyone just popping a pill and thinking this is gonna offset all the crap they do to their bodies. never stopping for one minute to think of the side effects of all the perscriptions meds they are on so they don't have to change one single bad habit. ridiculous
 
The World Health Organization(WHO) has done research and found the only proven way to extend ones life is a low calorie diet.they are actually talking about around 1200 kcals per day. I did a report on this in college years ago.
You guys can say what you want,but rediculous calories and 500 grams of protein per day with 3 grams of gear a week is not gonna help extend your life,you will just be a more muscular corpse.There is a happy medium which is kind of where i stand,but I'm sure some meatheads will flame away.Hey its your life and body.
 
i get so tired of everyone just popping a pill and thinking this is gonna offset all the crap they do to their bodies. never stopping for one minute to think of the side effects of all the perscriptions meds they are on so they don't have to change one single bad habit. ridiculous

Well considering that resveratrol isn't a prescription but the extract of red grapes, I understand what you're saying. But do you really think the diet most of us follow is healthy either?

I do agree with you though on the ridiculousness of people's thought process.
 
I think it makes perfect sense.. I look at it as "wear and tear".. When you take in excess calories, you're putting more of a work-load on pretty much every system in your body.. It's obviously not gonna be true in every single case - but when you take the entire population into account, it will definitely hold up.. And it's already known that being even slightly overweight is gonna decrease your life-span.. And then all the studies about red meat - there's definitely evidence that people that excessively eat red meat will have a lower life expectancy..

This is only speculation here - but women on average, consume fewer calories than men over their life, and on average they live a few additional years.. That may not be the cause, but it's another point to look at.. And then the evidence of looking at the types of guys like body-builders or football players - they take in way more calories than the average person, and on average, their life-span is definitely lower than average.

Even tho all this makes sense, I'm not gonna alter my lifestyle - I eat plenty of meat and definitely take in excess calories, although I'm still lean - but I still see how the theory is backed up with actual fact..
 
Did anyone else see this Oprah episode:eek:
yeah, i was watching Oprah:cool:

anyway, the show was about people that ate a calorie restricted diet in order to stimulate a response from the body to live longer.
they had a doctor interviewed and he was saying it could work!?!

one guy ate 1600 calories a day AND WORKED OUT:eek:
another guy ate 1700 calories and his wife ate like 1400 calories.
they said they felt great and had more energy than ever. they had been doing it for more than 7 years!

thoughts? -JS


IM FUCKING DEAD!!! hahahahahahaha
 
Did anyone else see this Oprah episode:eek:
yeah, i was watching Oprah:cool:

anyway, the show was about people that ate a calorie restricted diet in order to stimulate a response from the body to live longer.
they had a doctor interviewed and he was saying it could work!?!

one guy ate 1600 calories a day AND WORKED OUT:eek:
another guy ate 1700 calories and his wife ate like 1400 calories.
they said they felt great and had more energy than ever. they had been doing it for more than 7 years!

thoughts? -JS

I bet those guys all weighed in at around 170 lbs. I'd rather eat, train, and grow.

Tomorrow is not promised to anyone. God willing we all wake up tomorrow. I'm not trying to prolong my life as long as possible. I'm trying to increase the quality of my life for whatever time I am here. I like to look at life as there is no tomorrow.
 
I bet those guys all weighed in at around 170 lbs. I'd rather eat, train, and grow.

Tomorrow is not promised to anyone. God willing we all wake up tomorrow. I'm not trying to prolong my life as long as possible. I'm trying to increase the quality of my life for whatever time I am here. I like to look at life as there is no tomorrow.


bingoooo
 
I know its still from wikipedia, BUT At least i know they are not Bullshit , Because its About Defiency, Why would they lie about this...

Pretty interesting that You dont need Carbohydrates whether they are Complex or Simple , Dont need Trans fat(Thats an easy one), Dont need Unsaturated Fat and No Omega 6 Fatty acids.

i think they meant that each one individualy is not needed. for example you can exist without any simple carbs if you eat complex, or without any complex carbs if you eat simple. you must have some carbs to live. you cant live off fat and protein forever, your kidneys will be damaged from ketosis.
 
living without any carbs is not healthy. we need plants (fiber), fruits and vegetables are very healthy for us. but we dont need grains/corn/rice etc. at all for sure.
 
i think they meant that each one individualy is not needed. for example you can exist without any simple carbs if you eat complex, or without any complex carbs if you eat simple. you must have some carbs to live. you cant live off fat and protein forever, your kidneys will be damaged from ketosis.

Humm not sure about that...

If they Say That a person is not eating complex carbs and it doesnt create any Deffiency Problems, Then it must be true.

The same about Simple.

They are not connected between each other.

BTW Carbohydrates are not needed for the human to survive.

I read an article yesterday that Said that Everything can be supplied by Eating Different Meat.

The Fat(Cholesterol) in meat will Aid in digestion by stimulating Bile Salts,it says that we can eat RAW meat without any problems.

Do i say to eat raw meat? No.... But im sure 100% That Carbohydrates are not needed at all, for the simple Fact, They in Some Protein products Theres some Carbohydrates like eggs.

They even says That FUEL is a better Source of Energy that your body want to use. And that glucose was just like a Turbo that you needed for say lets running from a Tiger or be in danger.

it stated that many Problems Came from overusing Glucose as a food Source.

Think about it, Glucose = Elevated Insulin.

The more you Elevate Insulin the Faster you AGE, The more you Elevate Insulin the more you become insulin Resistant.

BTW Beans, grains and legumes are not Natural,They are Toxic In their Natural Form, They need to be modified so we can eat them.


They say that many Dicease develop and came from the Agriculture History, Before that we mostly Ate Meat, Nuts,some fruits and Plants.

Heres something interesting.

Paleolithic Diet: How our bodies want to be treated.

The human genome has changed little over the past 40,000 years . Our ancestors developed agricultural practices about 10,000 years ago (see a Timeline). The advent of agricultural marked a chaotic period for our bodies to adjust to these foreign foods. The fossil record shows a massive decrease in average height, health, and rapid increase in disease, obesity, and population for cultures that survived the transition from a hunter-gatherer lifestyle to a agricultural dependent one. Women on high grain/carbohydrate diets become mature at an earlier age than their hunter-gatherer counterparts; thereby out-breeding and out-producing hunter-gatherers. Without this significant population boom, our diet as we know it could in fact be the same as it was before the advent of agriculture.

The diet of our pre-agricultural ancestors consisted of meats, insects, vegetables, fruits, and nuts. The advent of agriculture brought us potatoes, legumes (i.e. peanuts, beans, and soy), grains (i.e. corn, wheat, rice, barley, and oats), and processed foods (i.e. sugar, bread, pastries, alcohol, etc.). Furthermore, we have bred our plants to produce the biggest and sweetest (highest sugar content) fruits. The best example of this is the blueberry.

Compare a wild Maine blueberry to the modern grocery store blueberry and you will see a remarkable difference. The wild blueberry is small, and contains little sugar. It takes a handful of wild berries to equal the sweetness of two or three large commercial berries. However, in that handful of wild berries you are getting a far larger amount of antioxidants and nutrients than you would by eating commercial berries alone. Farmers didn't cultivate and breed our plants to grow the most nutritious fruit, just the best tasting fruit. This analogy can be said for most of our modern foods.



Carbohydrates:

"Carbo-loading" has become synonymous with healthy. But are foods high in carbohydrates really good for us? Dr. Wolfgang Lutz of Austria would say no. His clinical experience with hundreds of patients suggests that diets high in carbohydrates are actually detrimental to our health. It is Dr. Lutz's opinion that carbohydrates are unnatural and harmful components of our diet and actually damage the mucosal layer of the gastrointestinal tract. Once damaged, antigens are free to enter the blood stream and cause all sorts of immune responses.

But aren't carbohydrates essential for a healthy diet? The answer is no. Sam Singer, in The Biology of the People writes, "The brain's energy requirements can be met by between 100 and 145 grams of glucose per day, and most diets contain enough carbohydrate to provide the brain and other tissues with this amount of glucose on a daily basis. But even if a person's diet changes so that it never contains enough carbohydrate to provide this much glucose, the concentration of glucose in the blood will not change. This is because natural selection has provided our bodies with a means of manufacturing it from molecules other than carbohydrates....The conversion of these dietary components into glucose is so effective that Masai warriors, Eskimos, South American gouchos, and other peoples may live for long periods of time on foods that are exclusively of animal origin and that contain almost no carbohydrate. These people are vigorous and healthy, and we learn from their eating habits that carbohydrate is not dietary essential, because they have normal levels of glucose in their blood in spite of the fact that their diets contain almost no carbohydrate."
 
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I've read that before on the Paleolithic Diet, and it's pretty interesting.. Mammals can definitely produce macros from different macros.. I was watching a diet on polar bears a while back.. They pretty much live off eating seals.. What I was surprised at tho, is the fact that if there is enough prey, they will only eat the fat off the seal, not even touching the meat.. This is because the fat has more energy in it, and that's the natural diet they're adapted to eat..
 

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