run out of money before genetics

[Bent_O_Bar]

Having experienced and observed, to a small degree, what's what when it comes to performing the proper exericse, rest, and diet (with supplementation)....it's in all likelihood a good bet that most guys will run out of money long before they will run out of genetics.

Any guy on a serious mass building program will have to eat amounts of food that go way beyond the norm, even by some previously held bodybuilding standards. A lot of food cost money, a lot of money. Once you've filled your grocery cart up with eggs, steak, chicken breasts, yam, rice, oatmeal, and other necessary quality items you will realize a big surge in your weekly (even daily) food bills.

As you get much stronger and dig deeper into your recovery reserves in your training cycles you'll find certain supplements will add that extra percentage of recovery, workout performance, and growth such as copious amounts of protein powder, BCAAs and L-Glutamine, Creatine and some other natural suppelments (I have no idea what gear costs but for those that take it add that on too). And going the cheap route with cheap foods will only (in most cases) add more unwanted fat, whereas the good stuff cost a bundle but is usually leaner in cut.

Factor all this into the notion that you need to put in at least several years of this consistently, and the average salaried guy will soon discover to his dismay he may never reach even his most immediate goals in strength and size.

 

[The Punisher]

Get a job where you can make real money and you shouldn't have a problem...

 

[Bent_O_Bar]

That wasn't such a nice thing to say. WTF? I bet if we compared salaries you would not say such a thing since I agree with everything said in the original post. You throw in the kids, car payments, mortgage, boat, property taxes on investments etc... I gaurantee you will be scrimping on the quality stuff once in a while.

I guess I don't find your reply the least bit humorous... Being in a high level IT position, I make plenty of money. My food bill STILL hurts.

Ursus~

I guess us guys in IT don't make enough money to be bodybuilders.

Actually now that you mention it I've never seen a bodybuilder in an IT job, let alone an IT building.

And this next part could almost be considered comical (and should be used as a skit on Saturday Night Live)...

...Actually having the TIME to eat all your meals while at work. Not to mention the toilet trips from drinking 3 gallons of water a day.

I'll bet there are not too many jobs out there outside of the fitness/bodybuilding industry that would allow a guy to pound down large tubs (a la Coleman) of food every 2.5-3 hrs, each and every work day.

It takes a good deal of time to chew a lot of chicken, and when your boss walks by your office and everytime he looks in you're stuffing your face, how long before that review comes up and he asks 'do you have some kind of eating disorder we should tell HR about?'. Of course the fact you've put on 50lbs in the last 3 months doesn't help things....

 

[xcelbeyond]

I've been doing the famous JT tuna diet :od-smil :foo:-smil :f;od-smil - so you can tell what my cubicle at work smells like :devil:smi

Women around me say "what's that smell?!?!" I just say "If it smells like fish - I eat it!" :action:sm They just grab their crotch and run away screaming in ecstacy! :acti:n-sm

 

[STORM SHADOW]

I've been doing the famous JT tuna diet :od-smil :foo:-smil :f;od-smil - so you can tell what my cubicle at work smells like :devil:smi

Women around me say "what's that smell?!?!" I just say "If it smells like fish - I eat it!" :action:sm They just grab their crotch and run away screaming in ecstacy! :acti:n-sm

ewwww bad visual my friend lol

 

[Starkraven]

That wasn't such a nice thing to say. WTF? I bet if we compared salaries you would not say such a thing since I agree with everything said in the original post. You throw in the kids, car payments, mortgage, boat, property taxes on investments etc... I gaurantee you will be scrimping on the quality stuff once in a while.

I guess I don't find your reply the least bit humorous... Being in a high level IT position, I make plenty of money. My food bill STILL hurts.


Ursus~

It hurts so much I lost interest in the sport. I just can't afford it, it costs way too much, WAY TOO MUCH. And I don't even own shit, i'm only 22 and make $10/hour full time. I'd rather have a nice physique and grow slower and train for strength instead. I spend enough as it is (roughly $300-400/month with shakes and supps included which is only udo's oil, and vitc and vit e and a couple others). If I had my life set, then maybe i can do it but for now its just too expensive.

 

[jahras12]

I really like this thread because I for one am not rich like some of my friends or other bbers that have endless amts of cash to spend and dont have top notch genetics- altho my genes are pretty good for bb- it comes down to consistency imho- I mean you can eat 8kcals and get big and fat quick - you can take 10g of test-20iu gh,slin t3 etc, and get gyno and nowhere fast and lose a lot of cash-train7x a week 2x/day etc, but in the long run the sport is not run by how much $ you have to put into it-its how much desire you have- I look at the guys of the old like the 60s 70s bbers- didnt have the drugs or money we have now to spend on bbing- just ate big trained hard and took test, dbol, deca, etc...no insane amts of gh,slin,etc...they were great! they didnt use a lot of cash like 10k$ + a year-I personal train to make cash-bodybuilding gave that to me- I make great money from it only being 19 and going to school as well- believe me its consistency of eating, right supplementation,cardio,training hard5-6x weeks in this sport that will gain the size and make the amazing physique not the insane amounts of drugs or food etc...just take test and a lot of it to gain good size cause thats all you need-it should run you 1-2k yr for 2-3g test a week and thats a whole lot- everything else is extra like tren,dbol,and not necessary imo if gaining muscle is what your about-then when you plateau kick in some gh at 4iu-6iu /day to help the fat burn off and keep going and then kick in some slin-this should realistically take the next 10-20years if done consistently and right-thats how you become amazing-not the amount of cash you spend on food or drugs-in reality it shouldnt even cost that much-sams club is a life saver,good gym membership and some good supps and time-its not a lot-just keep going!

 

[edge250]

buy powder from china, you can cycle for a whole year for prolly less than $200. buy your food bulk at sam's clubs and other similar places. shop for your supp such as protein powder and stuff online you can damn near get the stuff wholesale i like dps there damn cheap. igf is available at $150 per mg. i dont make that much money and i have no problems eating good and taking whatever i need in whatever amounts. the only problem i see is gh which can be expensive based on doseage, if you can get real serostims your only gonna be able to take half the doseage (joint stiffness) you would compared to chinese gh, its a fact. personally 1.8-2iu is all i can handle with serostim, jins i can do 5-6iu per day. so the sero's might cost slightly more the kit last longer cause of potentcy. so 1 kit of gh lasts me 63 days and thats taking it everyday 7 days a week not 5on 20ff. i dont have to sacrifice anything.

 

[jahras12]

see,
if there is a will there is a way-it can be done if you need more money work 2 jobs- from my personal experience personal training is the best to make cash-20 hours can make you up 1000$ in cash for 50$ a session-I am going to school full time and doing all this and I want it- i will do whatever it takes to succeed dont make it more than it is-you gotta love it to stick with it!

Jon

 

[xcelbeyond]

At 6'3" and about 260, shaved head and a goatee I look like Goldberg the wrestler (not by choice... lost the hair long ago)

Sounds like yo a BALD ursus! :cheeky-:m

 

[The Punisher]

I too have a mortgage, a baby, 2 new vehicles, taxes etc...not suggesting I am rich but I earn a nice living and have more than enough cash to spend on good food. Revaluate the rest of your expenses.

 

[The Punisher]

oh ya, the leaner red meats are actually cheaper..just not as tasty

 

[nandro]

honey buns 33cents for 480 calories a piece. ramen noodles 15cents for like 310 calories... makes you wonder...lol

 

[buffguy23]

I'm in scholl and work a part-time job. Buying your food in bulk at Sams is the way to go. Also the dps.com was also a great idea mentioned. You just have to find cheap ways to do what you love.

 

[joshbarnett]

with the personal training...you charge 50 but the gym will take half sometimes and you have taxes taken out on top that if you work through a gym.