Running Letro with tren???.. Estrogen Rebound???

[1bemicrodick]

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Okay guys... im scoring some letro at a hell of a deal, but i have tren in my cycle.

We know that there is a rebound effect when using letro for estrogen related symptoms. We also know that using Nolva can aggravate 19-nor compounds, So that would be a No go to use in case estrogen related symptoms arise.

I guess my main questions is, has anyone successfully tapered off letro without a significant estrogen rebound on cycle? what was your protocol? Do you think this rebound is blown out of proportion? I have never used letro but have used adex and aromasin.

Of course i could use adex or aromasin, but as some of you know, ive been waiting on my shit for ever, and im anxious to get the ball rolling. And im really getting a slamming deal om pharma grade letro.

 

[vadim_b1]

if you taper off using aromasin you wont have a problem

 

[DocHol1day]

i used letro with my last cycle of test and d-bol. estrogen rebounded massively, i dont remember what the numbers were but it made recovery a bitch. i personally wouldnt do it again.

edit: i should add, i didnt know enough about letro when i used it. i bought it because i knew it was potent and it was my first cycle and i didnt want gyno. had i known more, i would've tapered down to a very low dose for the last 4 weeks of the cycle and the two week bridge into pct. hope this helps in some way

 

[vadim_b1]

as i said taper off with aromasin

its a suicidal inhibitor which will shut down aromatase permanently

the reason why you rebound on letro is that the body produces massive amounts of aromatase when it senses practically zero estrogen levels. While letro blocks that aromatase its all good, but when its out of your system, youre left with all that aromatase free and ready to do its job.

With aromasin, the enzyme is permanently deactivated so that when you quit taking it, the enzyme slots are free again but it does not work. So the body has to replace all the existing enzyme which takes a while.

 

[1bemicrodick]

sounds good vadim.. ill find some aromasin somewere. i hate using research chems.

so as long as i stay on .5 eod i wont have a problem with rebound right? of course assuming im following up with aromasin. how long would you reccomend running aromasin after letro?

 

[vadim_b1]

low doses of letro are no guarantee of getting no rebound as it is so effective

it has been reported that doses as low as 0.25 mg eod could suppress over 99% percent of aromatization in test subjects.
So you could think youre tapering off letro and in fact have a massive rebound later, especially if youre using pharm grade which for sure will be dosed correctly unlike the research shit.
And pharm grade letro is very very powerful

Id say Aromasin for at least a month

 

[GoneForever]

I dont know what all this estrogen rebound talk is all about. Is this shit even proven. I've never used letro but have used clomid,nolva,aromasin,formestane and adex and never once had an estro rebound, even after being on for 6months and stopping.

 

[vadim_b1]

I dont know what all this estrogen rebound talk is all about. Is this shit even proven. I've never used letro but have used clomid,nolva,aromasin,formestane and adex and never once had an estro rebound, even after being on for 6months and stopping.

try letro for a long period come off abruptly and you will see

its basic pharmacology really

 

[GoneForever]

Must only be with letro then, b/c I havent heard of any problems with other anti-e's or serms.

 

[machola]

Must only be with letro then, b/c I havent heard of any problems with other anti-e's or serms.

as far as i know its the only one that has a rebound when you stop taking it

 

[vadim_b1]

Must only be with letro then, b/c I havent heard of any problems with other anti-e's or serms.

serms will not cause a rebound because there wont be an accompanying rise in aromatase levels
arimidex doesnt lower your estrogen enough (levels lowered at most 50%)
and aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor and as i said will not cause a rebound

so we are only left with letro

 

[Muay Thai]

serms will not cause a rebound because there wont be an accompanying rise in aromatase levels
arimidex doesnt lower your estrogen enough (levels lowered at most 50%)
and aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor and as i said will not cause a rebound

so we are only left with letro

does anything reverse gyno besides surgery?

like taking large mgs of nolva or anything any ai?

i heard raloxfiene has that potential

 

[vadim_b1]

depends how advanced it is

in most bad cases though surgery is the only option, if your gyno just started to develop then raloxifene could possibly reverse it.

In any case doesnt hurt to try before you opt for surgery.

 

[Beta]

can someone give a explanation of the proper protocol for getting off of letro, i have been on for quite a while with pretty acceptable results but need to end this properly.