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Rory33

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Before I start this I want to go over some things. Yes there are some other ways, yes I know about them. Feel free to add them in the thread.. I do believe complacency is the reason most people get caught an bottom line is in our "hobby" plain possession is a felony case in most places. So I feel everything you can do to prevent a knock on your door or a raid (those arent fun btw). I hope Norbit and some of the other guys chime in with other programs they like to use as well. If you need more in depth info on some of the subjects here feel free to PM me.

Browsing the Web and Accessing your Emails:
First thing is the Tor Browser (get the bundle). You can download it here.
This basically acts as a relay when using the browser correctly. Is it 100% secure? NO, nothing really is but this is the closest you can come to it for the average person. Lets say you are in the United States, in Colorado and you want to connect to a site in United States, New York. You open the browser and connect. The browser will automatically configure a series of relays. Ex: Your computer- connects encrypted to one in Sweden- which connects encrypted to one in Australia- which connects encrypted to one in Canada- which connects UN-ENCRYPTED to the one you want to view in New York. Thus if anyone wants to track back your ip from the site, it will show an ip from a foreign country or somewhere other than you. IF they are able to pass thru that computer they would have to go thru several countries (laws are a bitch) and alot of hacking to try an find your official IP. Then they would need to prove that the info sent from your computer was the info that was received on the end site. This is where deniability comes in being that it passed thru encrypted thru several other computers. However it is a small chance that they would ever get thru or spend the relentless time hacking and trying to get thru all the levels of encryption thru every relay. (Its also always best to "borrow" wireless connections from neighbors :) ).


Second is VPNs for browsing
. Now before I get into this, Im going to keep this simple. And I will point out I recommend a simple PAID service which is **broken link removed**. Its easy to use and lets you choose where you want the server coming from. They have them in Usa, Canada, Australia, United Kingdom, Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands, India, Singapore, Egypt, Russia, Sweden, Turkey, Hong Kong. It works by allowing you to navigate and communicate with any other Internet application such as email, web,voip,etc. in a completely ANONYMOUS way and enables you to NOT be intercepted by anyone with ALL your Internet Communication using encrypted PPTP protocol at 128 bit or L2tp/Ipsec 256 bit;

Emails. Remember that even encrypted emails require communication on both sides. If your looking around for a paid service I recommend Countermail (even offers 30 days free) or Securenym.(sender and receiver) need to be able to accept and decipher the email. This rarely happens and if you either side is compromised, both can suffer. Remember this. If your sponsor is busted or if a client is busted and they get access to the emails, and you've been replying back to each one keeping a history and track record of every order, they will have everything available to them and full history of the order. Including what payment was made, with what and what name an address is went to. Make sure as you delete information and send emails to "trash" to empty the trash after. Think of it like your home. You throw something in the trash can, its still there until you take the trash out.

So personally I like IM communications. What we are looking for is again, encryption and deniability again. This is what gives us a legal loophole. Email is an Old fashioned way of business and since times have changed, we need to as well. OTR instant messaging provides this. My personal favorite can be downloaded here OTR via Gaim. Benefits of OTR?
Encryption
No one else can read your instant messages.
Authentication
You are assured the correspondent is who you think it is.
Deniability
The messages you send do not have digital signatures that are checkable by a third party. Anyone can forge messages after a conversation to make them look like they came from you. However, during a conversation, your correspondent is assured the messages he sees are authentic and unmodified.
Perfect forward secrecy
If you lose control of your private keys, no previous conversation is compromised. (before people start saying you wont lose control, if you get busted and raided and they get access to your computer, you just lost control.)

Again this protects BOTH parties and allows you to communicate with your special someone in an secure encrypted manner and with DENIABILITY.

Bring on the cell phone world..... Similar to what is done above in communication is **broken link removed**. I love wickr and use it to communicate to people all the time. It runs strictly data, everything encrypted, and I can send you a message that will delete off your phone in a time frame I set. So that if someone reads it an forgets to delete it, it will already be deleted. Great for discussing issues with a client you dont see too often.

For the record, every call you make on your phones and sms messages can be used against you in court. Even triangulation of your location can be used to support evidence in court. Most smartphones document all this and some even have been put to light. FBI using Carrier IQ info for “law enforcement purposes,” refuses to release records | Ars Technica

Using your real name and address.
Simple rule is dont and use novelty ids for boxes or use apartments (subleases thru craigslist are great for a one month), houses that are on the market... all sorts of address you can use. I have a neighbor in the oil business and 3 weeks out of the month hes gone, so sending a package to that address is nothing really. If you do use your real info I would recommend reading Legal Muscle: Anabolics in America by Rick Collins and dont be too surprised if something happens one day.

Pictures. Geotagging is alot to explain so you can read about here. Consumer Smart: GeoTag and Craigslist Check Scam - YouTube Simply put some phones and cameras will "tag" your pictures with coordinates that can be used to locate you. Now depending on what type of phone your using their are apps to download (deoGeo for iphone is a good one) for free which will remove the geotag off the picture before you post it. My point here is taking pics of yourself after talking about your use and or taking pics of gear and posting them on forums is asking for trouble from law enforcement.

Encrypting your computer. In the event your caught this is a great option to have. Trucrypt is free and easy to use for the most part. This may get technical for some to instal but here it is for those that want to use it. TrueCrypt. Main Features:

.Creates a virtual encrypted disk within a file and mounts it as a real disk.
.Encrypts an entire partition or storage device such as USB flash drive or hard drive.
.Encrypts a partition or drive where Windows is installed (pre-boot authentication).
.Encryption is automatic, real-time (on-the-fly) and transparent
.Parallelization and pipelining allow data to be read and written as fast as if the drive was not encrypted.
.Encryption can be hardware-accelerated on modern processors.
.Provides plausible deniability, in case an adversary forces you to reveal the password:
.Hidden volume (steganography) and hidden operating system.

Hotspots and phones. Its easy nowadays to get a phone with no account number and prepaid. On ATT network you have H2O and on the Tmobile network, you have Simple Mobile. Both with you can use with the right phone bought off craigslist in cash, and use as a hotspot for internet usage or phone usage. There are alot of things you can do to a phone to make it secure. For androids take a look at **broken link removed**.
 
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Tor is great, I use it once I start doing any sort of deal
 
Thanks for posting. I was lost on a few bits but learnt alot. Thank you :)
 
Great stuff... Thanks for taking the time to share some knowledge
 
That's some great info there and It would be wise if we all followed it.

Honestly though I think most people get busted because of their own big mouth. I don't tell anyone about my use. NO ONE. I can't understand what makes so many Bros want to tell about their use to everybody.

I know anything can happen. I got pulled over one day right after I picked up a package from the post office. I didn't open the package and I had it on the seat next to me. If I opened it and the cop pulled me over while I was going through 12 vials and a bunt of tabs I may have been on cops, but honestly I think so many guys get caught is because they tell on themselves and someone snitches.
 
I think alot of this stuff is overlooked or too spread out over the forum. We have a computer/tech section on the forum but alot of people would never see it there, and its more then a computer/tech issue. Its about keeping members as safe as possible and addressing issues that one person may overlook.

Lets face it, some people on the board have clients and supplement their income. Those people need to be made aware and the best possible situation to keep safe.
 
this is great info! awsome thread
what happens to the msm messages when deleted off phones...( they can always be retrieved right) any answers??
i heard most smart phones save all messages within the phone.. i am ignorant when it comes to all of this..
 
this is great info! awsome thread
what happens to the msm messages when deleted off phones...( they can always be retrieved right) any answers??
i heard most smart phones save all messages within the phone.. i am ignorant when it comes to all of this..

Yes. Also most people dont realize how much data goes into an iphone or cloud storage when backedup. Thats why I like wickr for iphone since its free, or redphone and text secure for andriod. Always best to use a system that has military grade encryption on it.

The carriers will store some info but the backup is what kills people. You think you deleted something but theres a record of it. iPhone Backup Viewer to browse and manage iPhone backups. 100% FREE this is ok for people that dont know how to go into a backup manually to view messages and such.
 
Yes. Also most people dont realize how much data goes into an iphone or cloud storage when backedup. Thats why I like wickr for iphone since its free, or redphone and text secure for andriod. Always best to use a system that has military grade encryption on it.

The carriers will store some info but the backup is what kills people. You think you deleted something but theres a record of it. iPhone Backup Viewer to browse and manage iPhone backups. 100% FREE this is ok for people that dont know how to go into a backup manually to view messages and such.

awsome thanks for sharing.. i will definitely get one with military encryption! time to destroy old phones! ha:star-w:rs
 
gawd damn I feel so stupid after I read somthing like that

sittin their , mouth open , blank look , thinking about Oreo cookies wandering what the fuck just happened!!

Thanks for the info brother , much much apprecieted
 
gawd damn I feel so stupid after I read somthing like that

sittin their , mouth open , blank look , thinking about Oreo cookies wandering what the fuck just happened!!

Thanks for the info brother , much much apprecieted

Glad im not the only one.
 
Thanks for posting all of this info. I'd been thinking about doing the same, but I didn't know how to bring it up, especially as a new mostly lurker. TOR, True Crypt, and OTR (I use Pidgin OTR, another good IM client) are the very minimum everyone should use. TC with a good password has saved a few folks I know over the years.

I don't do any sketchy browsing or posting from my phone, just as a matter of principle (for starters: 1, 2, 3), but I really appreciate you including ways to keep your phone safe. Have you used the various pieces of cell phone software you posted personally?
 
Thanks for posting all of this info. I'd been thinking about doing the same, but I didn't know how to bring it up, especially as a new mostly lurker. TOR, True Crypt, and OTR (I use Pidgin OTR, another good IM client) are the very minimum everyone should use. TC with a good password has saved a few folks I know over the years.

I don't do any sketchy browsing or posting from my phone, just as a matter of principle (for starters: 1, 2, 3), but I really appreciate you including ways to keep your phone safe. Have you used the various pieces of cell phone software you posted personally?

Yes I have bro. Theres a tor browser you can use for iphone, vpns etc. Android phones should really have the roms replaced as well. Phones can be secure but it takes alot to get into, which apps, services, disabling gps antennas within the phone, different encryption programs etc....
 
Yes I have bro. Theres a tor browser you can use for iphone, vpns etc. Android phones should really have the roms replaced as well. Phones can be secure but it takes alot to get into, which apps, services, disabling gps antennas within the phone, different encryption programs etc....

Thanks for that, I think I'm all set. I'll just keep treating my phone like it has the HerpAIDSyphilus plague and leave well enough alone. Phone companies already routinely roll customer info over at the drop of a hat, so I'll just wait until I'm near my encrypted home computer and not sweat it. I have used a VPN for my phone before, and it worked well enough as long as I didn't mind waiting 3x+ longer for pages to load.
 
gawd damn I feel so stupid after I read somthing like that

sittin their , mouth open , blank look , thinking about Oreo cookies wandering what the fuck just happened!!

Thanks for the info brother , much much apprecieted

Are you kidding me. I will probably have to see if Rory will let me fly him out here and do it for me. I'll take him to the titty bar or something :D
 

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