I was simply trying to save someone, who obviously has very little knowledge of what they are doing,
some trouble down the road. This is not something I'm interested in debating, I find it extremely uninteresting
in its context, but I'll respond with some of my thoughts.
KillerStack said:
D-bol only works marvelously for a number of applications. Legendary physiques were built on d-bol and little else, records were broken, and etc. It's not optimal but so what, depends on what the dude is satisfied with.
And since then there have been great strides and advances made in the methodologies of AAS.
No legendary physiques or records come about today with the old hand full of d-bol mentality.
What I'm saying is there are better and IMO safer ways.
KillerStack said:
To the guys who think this is dangerous, do you think he would be healthier if he added a bunch of tren and eq to the mix and ran it way longer?
Nope, and no one even hinted at doing such a thing.
KillerStack said:
I believe Gavin Kane wrote on bolex about how oral only cycles can work great. Just to stir some debate.
Gavin, for the most part, gears his information towards a much different audience than this guy belongs to.
Sure, an all oral cycle is going to work, they're steroids, but as you yourself stated, they are not optimal.
I haven't read the article so I can't say much about it, but obviously G.K. knows what he's talking about and
I can assume its not misinformation.
KillerStack said:
If, and I say IF, you could gain 5lbs of pure muscle in that time frame and on those compounds, that would be absolutely spectacular. It's unlikely though, especially if you already have heavier juicing experience and want to gain past your previous top lean weight
True, but I was speaking more in regards to the weight gained and lost. If I put on 10lbs and lost half of that
I'd be pretty upset with myself. If I threw on 40lbs fairly quickly and lost half of that, I could live with myself.
One thing I've noticed with myself, others, and accounts from boards is that there is a common theme with
liver problems and other complications - orals and tren. Once a persons body weight gets relatively
high and they have extensive experience with gear the law of diminishing returns sets in and more is needed
plain and simple. Granted he only has half the equation, but once 20mgs of d-bol stops producing what he wants
there is no place to move but up. Who knows how it would turn out, but this person wasn't choosing an all oral
route because of extensive depth and knowledge with respect to cycling. There are much better ways to achieve
the goals he desires, and we're trying to achieve those as safely as possible right?