Suggestions for a hardener cycle

[Brutis]

I've done sust, deca, in a cycle and got fat pretty fast. I originally (way back when) went from 180lbs to 220lbs in no time. Ive done deca dbol cycles, test dbol cycles, one of my favorites was Laurabolin 50 and mexican rediject sostenon; I was looking and feeling my best probably. I have been up to
260lbs and strong as an ox but not cut, just beefcake. Its been 2 years since any cycle and Im not wanting to gain any weight, I'm comfortable @200lbs
Juice makes me starving and irritable and swell up.
What do you guys think about a primabolin only cycle?

 

[FRKNHUGE]

ive done prim only at 500-800mg a week n loved it, no bloat, plenty strong and kept what i got

frk

 

[RV63T]

i bet tbol would be could in there.

 

[harleyc]

If you get good prime you will be very happy. I would add test prop in there if i was you. It will help alot with the sex drive and it will not make you blout at all.

 

[DrivingForward]

Looking for Fat Loss or Lean gains? Not saying you can't have both, but its the subject of much argument.

Primo is pretty weak.. Hard to find Legit.. Expensive.

Try Trebolone...

If you're already reasonably lean, I've seen Tren, Masterone, and Test Prop make some really nice physiques.

I personally found that Tren caused me to lose significant bodyfat, but that also is subject to debate by many bodybuilders.

 

[maldorf]

Most experienced guys are going to tell you that if youre looking to get lean that you need to change your diet and do a little more cardio, simple as that. As far as using AAS along the way to help you harden up, anything that is high androgenic is what you want. Trenbalone and halotestin make you hard as nails with the right diet.

 

[FRKNHUGE]

they also shut you down just by saying their names lol


frk

 

[bigprimp]

I know people who did well with Anavar, the Anavar will get you strong and you shouldn't gain much if any weight.

 

[ds44]

Diet Diet oh and did i mention diet, cardio cardio cardio!!!

 

[Brutis]

I agree about diet and cardio, but how do you diet when your so starving you could take a bite out of a cow before its even dead? I have a good apatite without juicing, but just add a little test and equipoise and look out! I could eat a large combination pizza by myself as a late night snack after waking up to take a piss! And if I dont get food immediately I am a pissed off bear! "its like taking the baby bottle away from the baby" watch the video

Dailymotion - Bodybuilding-Bodybuilder - Victor Richards - une vidéo Sports et Extrême

 

[winnivee]

100mg tren EOD
150mg prop EOD
100mg masteron EOD
75mg winstrol EOD
150mg anavar ED

screw a deit ha lol jk but this would be nasty

 

[rhinofight]

c'mon man. 150var and 75 winny along with those others? That's a high cost physically and financially just to harden up. Geez.

 

[tenny]

Looking for Fat Loss or Lean gains? Not saying you can't have both, but its the subject of much argument.

Primo is pretty weak.. Hard to find Legit.. Expensive.

Try Trebolone...

If you're already reasonably lean, I've seen Tren, Masterone, and Test Prop make some really nice physiques.
I personally found that Tren caused me to lose significant bodyfat, but that also is subject to debate by many bodybuilders.

can you explain to me how this "makes nice physiques"

 

[Brutis]

Well what does make a nice physique Tenny?

 

[richiec]

Well what does make a nice physique Tenny?

hard work and the right diet

 

[tenny]

hard work and the right diet

correct

and

TIME!!!!!!



the tortoise will ALWAYS beat the hare

 

[b-boy]

correct

and

TIME!!!!!!



the tortoise will ALWAYS beat the hare

LOL man i swear i fucking love when you post!

anytime i see your name in a thread i gotta open it up and read your response's....

 

[Elvia1023]

I agree about diet and cardio, but how do you diet when your so starving you could take a bite out of a cow before its even dead? I have a good apatite without juicing, but just add a little test and equipoise and look out! I could eat a large combination pizza by myself as a late night snack after waking up to take a piss! And if I dont get food immediately I am a pissed off bear! "its like taking the baby bottle away from the baby" watch the video

Dailymotion - Bodybuilding-Bodybuilder - Victor Richards - une vidéo Sports et Extrême

The very fact you would eat a large combination pizza probably shows were your going wrong. I know you were probably bulking at the time but by the sounds of it your diet isn't very strict. Your fluctations in weight show that. Anyway don't wanna sound like an arse but really the best things are diet and cardio and time. I know you wrote you agree with diet and cardio but then you write 'but how do you diet when your so starving you could take a bite out of a cow before its even dead?' Anyone who wants to get hard/cut/toned etc needs to watch what they eat. If your appetitie is so big you just need to try harder then. Willpower is why 99% people fail. You could even take an appeptite suppressant if it's that bad.

If you want to try a cycle then as maldorf stated you need something androgenic. Although I don't think you should touch halo or tren cos you have had a big break and they are strong and would shut you down hard. My fav stack is Test P, Mast P and avar. Primo and proviron are other great things to harden you up. Winny dries you out but I wouldn't take it again cos my joints have never been the same since trying it. Let us know what you decide to do.

 

[Oilyshoulders]

I agree about diet and cardio, but how do you diet when your so starving you could take a bite out of a cow before its even dead? I have a good apatite without juicing, but just add a little test and equipoise and look out! I could eat a large combination pizza by myself as a late night snack after waking up to take a piss! And if I dont get food immediately I am a pissed off bear! "its like taking the baby bottle away from the baby" watch the video

Dailymotion - Bodybuilding-Bodybuilder - Victor Richards - une vidéo Sports et Extrême

lol funny

 

[muscle_n_blood]

As stated, your diet will dictate how you look. Muscle maturity contributes to a dense, hard look also. As far as contibuting to a dense, ard look, for the last show I did I used tren A, winstrol suspension, and test suspension. I looked pretty good, definitely hard and well striated.