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mikelittoris
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sust causing sleep trouble-help?
what is the best thing to take to combat the inability to sleep when on sustanon?melatonin has not worked. Paxil has not helped.thanx.
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04-12-2002 05:44 AM
PW75
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Ambien aka stillnox is the best if you can get it. If not the supplment ZMax and little bit of red wine before bed work just fine.
PW
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04-12-2002 08:24 AM
deadlift1965
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Bro,
I sympathize.....I'm a chronic insomniac.
Here's some of the things I have used in the past. They can be found at a health food store.
5-HTP - Spikes your seratonin levels and makes you happy
GABA -Some say it is the bomb for sleep - also spikes your GH
Pantothenic Acid - Reduces the chemical you release from stress.
Sex - Just hope the clerk at your supplement store looks good.
good luck
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04-12-2002 09:19 AM
FRKNHUGE
Future Junior Natl Powerlifting Champ
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Location: in your bed with ur girl, lol
Posts: 289
use xanax
or valium with a lil melatonin
works like a charm
frk
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04-12-2002 09:22 PM
Growing Dad
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Location: Arizona
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Benadryl.
50-75mgs of Benadryl allergy pills knocks me out hard. I'm using about 600mgs of sus a week+fina ed and when I lay down I really notice the strong fast heart rate. So after I attack my wife for an hour or so, I'll take the benadryl if I'm not wiped out enuf.
Peace, GD
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04-12-2002 10:40 PM
ripped103
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trazadone at 100mg knocks my ass out.
or 1mg -2mg of xanax works good also
sometimes i take both and i sleep for like 10 hours straight
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04-15-2002 05:29 AM
FRKNHUGE
Future Junior Natl Powerlifting Champ
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: in your bed with ur girl, lol
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i forgot abt the X
i use them now too, lol
they work like a charm
im 315 and use 1mg, its potent shit lol
frk
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04-15-2002 10:45 AM
Mr. Magoo
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Those are all great sleep aids, but i have had a sleeping disorder for quite a while now, and was on basically everything u guys mentioned, but what finally has worked for me 7.5 mg's of remeron
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04-16-2002 09:04 AM
mikelittoris
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quote:
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Originally posted by Mr. Magoo
Those are all great sleep aids, but i have had a sleeping disorder for quite a while now, and was on basically everything u guys mentioned, but what finally has worked for me 7.5 mg's of remeron
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any side effects to remeron(constipation,water retention...)?
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04-16-2002 07:25 PM
MikeS
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Ive used melatonin, kavakava, renutrient, tylenol PM. I use generic Benydryl now. Its the same med as is in tylenol Pm/sominex but cheaper. And minus the tylenol which has show to be somewhat stressful on the liver. Melatonin works if you take it infrequently. I can use 1 benydryl cap and Im good to go!
Whats Remeron, Mr Magoo?
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04-16-2002 08:46 PM
Mr. Magoo
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its basically an anti-depressant with great sleep enhancung benefits. I have not been watching for weight gain or water retntion. I am heavier after using it, but that could be due to so many factors.
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04-16-2002 10:34 PM
Xandar
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Xanax is the bomb
1-2mg at bedtime and you will be sleeping like a log. If you can get your hands on some Remeron. You will sleep for 13-16 hours if you wanted to. But thank God for xanax. Without it. I never could have handled my Prop cycle.
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04-30-2002 03:20 PM
mikelittoris
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I CAN get remeron-I stopped the gear and now I am sleeping-I'm going back on gear in late May, so I may have to go w/ remeron-xanax is addictive
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05-01-2002 01:56 AM
ronan
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Only one that works for me these days is Ambien.
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Simon Birch
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ambien
bro, you can use xanax,val's or trazadone. they all work great but what i found that works best for me is ambien. go to your doc and tell him you wanna try some ambien. it works great for me.later
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05-02-2002 01:25 AM
drgoodbody
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A little info for ya.....
From their web site:
RemeronR is the tradename of Organon's new antidepressant mirtazapine.
RemeronR is the first NaSSA - a Noradrenergic and Specific Serotonergic Antidepressant. It enhances the release of the neurotransmitter noradrenaline in certain areas in the brain. It also increases the release of another neurotransmitter, serotonin. Such dual action is increasingly being recognised as beneficial for effectiveness in treating depression.
RemeronR is not associated with anticholinergic side effects like constipation, urinary retention and dizziness. In addition, Remeron's action on the serotonergic system is highly specific: it allows the extra serotonin to act on the serotonin receptor site which mediates the antidepressant activity, and it blocks other serotonin receptors which cause the unwanted serotonergic side effects like sexual dysfunction, insomnia, anxiety, agitation, and gastrointestinal disorders like nausea.
The most common side effects of RemeronR are daytime sleepiness which usually subsides rapidly after the first week and in some cases increased appetite and weight gain in some cases.
It is advised to take your daily dose of Remeron at night before going to bed. Of course, you should discuss use of RemeronR and any other questions you may have about Remeron or depression with your doctor.
---------------
Well now I know what it is... question is where to get it
later,
DrG
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05-02-2002 04:27 AM
mikelittoris
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I can get remeron, but I don't want to get fat from it-has anyone had experience with remeron? how likely is weight gain as a side effect? I am going to be on gear starting in 3 weeks and eating with the goal of gaining mass(very high pro, mod carb).
Member
Registered: Feb 2002
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sust causing sleep trouble-help?
what is the best thing to take to combat the inability to sleep when on sustanon?melatonin has not worked. Paxil has not helped.thanx.
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04-12-2002 05:44 AM
PW75
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Ambien aka stillnox is the best if you can get it. If not the supplment ZMax and little bit of red wine before bed work just fine.
PW
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04-12-2002 08:24 AM
deadlift1965
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 28
Bro,
I sympathize.....I'm a chronic insomniac.
Here's some of the things I have used in the past. They can be found at a health food store.
5-HTP - Spikes your seratonin levels and makes you happy
GABA -Some say it is the bomb for sleep - also spikes your GH
Pantothenic Acid - Reduces the chemical you release from stress.
Sex - Just hope the clerk at your supplement store looks good.
good luck
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04-12-2002 09:19 AM
FRKNHUGE
Future Junior Natl Powerlifting Champ
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: in your bed with ur girl, lol
Posts: 289
use xanax
or valium with a lil melatonin
works like a charm
frk
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04-12-2002 09:22 PM
Growing Dad
Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Arizona
Posts: 134
Benadryl.
50-75mgs of Benadryl allergy pills knocks me out hard. I'm using about 600mgs of sus a week+fina ed and when I lay down I really notice the strong fast heart rate. So after I attack my wife for an hour or so, I'll take the benadryl if I'm not wiped out enuf.
Peace, GD
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Growing Dad
Protector of my family!
Transformation comes in response to a NEED as well as a DESIRE!
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04-12-2002 10:40 PM
ripped103
Junior Member
Registered: Mar 2002
Location:
Posts: 17
trazadone at 100mg knocks my ass out.
or 1mg -2mg of xanax works good also
sometimes i take both and i sleep for like 10 hours straight
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04-15-2002 05:29 AM
FRKNHUGE
Future Junior Natl Powerlifting Champ
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: in your bed with ur girl, lol
Posts: 289
i forgot abt the X
i use them now too, lol
they work like a charm
im 315 and use 1mg, its potent shit lol
frk
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04-15-2002 10:45 AM
Mr. Magoo
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location:
Posts: 46
Those are all great sleep aids, but i have had a sleeping disorder for quite a while now, and was on basically everything u guys mentioned, but what finally has worked for me 7.5 mg's of remeron
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04-16-2002 09:04 AM
mikelittoris
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Registered: Feb 2002
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Posts: 49
quote:
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Originally posted by Mr. Magoo
Those are all great sleep aids, but i have had a sleeping disorder for quite a while now, and was on basically everything u guys mentioned, but what finally has worked for me 7.5 mg's of remeron
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
any side effects to remeron(constipation,water retention...)?
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04-16-2002 07:25 PM
MikeS
Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2002
Location:
Posts: 159
Ive used melatonin, kavakava, renutrient, tylenol PM. I use generic Benydryl now. Its the same med as is in tylenol Pm/sominex but cheaper. And minus the tylenol which has show to be somewhat stressful on the liver. Melatonin works if you take it infrequently. I can use 1 benydryl cap and Im good to go!
Whats Remeron, Mr Magoo?
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04-16-2002 08:46 PM
Mr. Magoo
Member
Registered: Apr 2002
Location:
Posts: 46
its basically an anti-depressant with great sleep enhancung benefits. I have not been watching for weight gain or water retntion. I am heavier after using it, but that could be due to so many factors.
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04-16-2002 10:34 PM
Xandar
Junior Member
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Dirty South
Posts: 2
Xanax is the bomb
1-2mg at bedtime and you will be sleeping like a log. If you can get your hands on some Remeron. You will sleep for 13-16 hours if you wanted to. But thank God for xanax. Without it. I never could have handled my Prop cycle.
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04-30-2002 03:20 PM
mikelittoris
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Registered: Feb 2002
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Posts: 49
I CAN get remeron-I stopped the gear and now I am sleeping-I'm going back on gear in late May, so I may have to go w/ remeron-xanax is addictive
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05-01-2002 01:56 AM
ronan
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 44
Only one that works for me these days is Ambien.
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05-01-2002 05:22 PM
Simon Birch
Junior Member
Registered: May 2002
Location: South of Canada
Posts: 1
ambien
bro, you can use xanax,val's or trazadone. they all work great but what i found that works best for me is ambien. go to your doc and tell him you wanna try some ambien. it works great for me.later
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05-02-2002 01:25 AM
drgoodbody
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: in a state of paranoia
Posts: 31
A little info for ya.....
From their web site:
RemeronR is the tradename of Organon's new antidepressant mirtazapine.
RemeronR is the first NaSSA - a Noradrenergic and Specific Serotonergic Antidepressant. It enhances the release of the neurotransmitter noradrenaline in certain areas in the brain. It also increases the release of another neurotransmitter, serotonin. Such dual action is increasingly being recognised as beneficial for effectiveness in treating depression.
RemeronR is not associated with anticholinergic side effects like constipation, urinary retention and dizziness. In addition, Remeron's action on the serotonergic system is highly specific: it allows the extra serotonin to act on the serotonin receptor site which mediates the antidepressant activity, and it blocks other serotonin receptors which cause the unwanted serotonergic side effects like sexual dysfunction, insomnia, anxiety, agitation, and gastrointestinal disorders like nausea.
The most common side effects of RemeronR are daytime sleepiness which usually subsides rapidly after the first week and in some cases increased appetite and weight gain in some cases.
It is advised to take your daily dose of Remeron at night before going to bed. Of course, you should discuss use of RemeronR and any other questions you may have about Remeron or depression with your doctor.
---------------
Well now I know what it is... question is where to get it
later,
DrG
__________________
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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05-02-2002 04:27 AM
mikelittoris
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Registered: Feb 2002
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Posts: 49
I can get remeron, but I don't want to get fat from it-has anyone had experience with remeron? how likely is weight gain as a side effect? I am going to be on gear starting in 3 weeks and eating with the goal of gaining mass(very high pro, mod carb).
