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Take a Closer Look at your Sports Drink

Dr.S

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I know I've said this a bunch of times, but I love natural Coconut Water. It tastes great and doesn't irritate my stomach. Here's a comparison of ONE coconut water vs. Gatorade....mg's

Gatorade(8oz) Coconut water (11 oz)

Potassium 30 670

Calories 50 60

Magnesium ? 25

Sodium 110 60

Sugars 14 14 (natural)


I've always thought Gatorade sucked. It also contains no Vit-C or Calcium. How can a sports drink have only 30mgs of Potassium? (you can see the coconut water has 670 mgs per 11 oz) I highly recommend you try coconut water---I've tried 4 brands, and I like O.N.E. best (and no, I don't sell it or make a profit :p )
 
honestly

I know I've said this a bunch of times, but I love natural Coconut Water. It tastes great and doesn't irritate my stomach. Here's a comparison of ONE coconut water vs. Gatorade....mg's

Gatorade(8oz) Coconut water (11 oz)

Potassium 30 670

Calories 50 60

Magnesium ? 25

Sodium 110 60

Sugars 14 14 (natural)


I've always thought Gatorade sucked. It also contains no Vit-C or Calcium. How can a sports drink have only 30mgs of Potassium? (you can see the coconut water has 670 mgs per 11 oz) I highly recommend you try coconut water---I've tried 4 brands, and I like O.N.E. best (and no, I don't sell it or make a profit :p )

That much potassium in coconut water could be very dangerous to people on blood pressure meds WITH KIDNEY ISSUES. Many people unknowingly have kidney disease and this advice could kill them.Gatorade has a perfect balance for me of sodium and potassium.
 
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doesnt gatorade use HFC
 
That much potassium in coconut water could be very dangerous to people on blood pressure meds. Gatorade has a perfect balance for me of sodium and potassium.

I'd have to disagree about your take on gatorade, but I'm sure folks will be smart enough to do their research
 
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doesnt gatorade use HFC

The pre-mixed liquid version have a lot of HFCS, but the powder mix only has minor amounts (sucrose).

Gatorade I believe works good because of its osmolality...and of course electrolytes.

I've yet to try the coconut water:)

BMJ
 
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you guys think that sports drinks are worth it during a weight workout, as opposed to just drinking water? I assume that it doesn't make a big diff but this got me curious
 
Actually

you guys think that sports drinks are worth it during a weight workout, as opposed to just drinking water? I assume that it doesn't make a big diff but this got me curious

Chocolate milk, unless you have potassium problems, looks to be the best recovery drink. I use milk with chocolate LBAs.
 
im drinking my 64oz orange gatorade while reading this :p

but honestly, as an athlete gatorade has the electrolytes which really help with performance. i need gatorade, plus coconuts are gross :rolleyes:
 
Chocolate milk, unless you have potassium problems, looks to be the best recovery drink. I use milk with chocolate LBAs.

what about the fat in the milk? I guess if your using this as a meal with LBA's and some EVOO it doesnt matter. Splain your secret cocktail Phil:D
 
im drinking my 64oz orange gatorade while reading this :p

but honestly, as an athlete gatorade has the electrolytes which really help with performance. i need gatorade, plus coconuts are gross :rolleyes:

Coconut "water" tastes nothing like coconut milk or coconut oil--go get an 11 oz can of O.N.E. coconut water--- I bet you'll like the taste better than Gatorade. Coconut water also is a better source of electrolytes than Gatorade....that's kind of why I posted this-- for athletes and guys to use during workouts...

and I think Phil was joking about the chocolate milk--unless it's Raw Milk....I stay clear of pasteurized dairy and Soy, of course
 
Coconut "water" tastes nothing like coconut milk or coconut oil--go get an 11 oz can of O.N.E. coconut water--- I bet you'll like the taste better than Gatorade. Coconut water also is a better source of electrolytes than Gatorade....that's kind of why I posted this-- for athletes and guys to use during workouts...

and I think Phil was joking about the chocolate milk--unless it's Raw Milk....I stay clear of pasteurized dairy and Soy, of course

im not trying to be an ass...but all i know is our team is sponsored by gatorade...so thats what ill drink. how much does that coconut water cost?
 
Also

Guys-- try replacing your sports drink with coconut water for a few workouts and see what happens

The "average" person should generally be around 2-4 grams potassium per day; those with blood pressure issues, athletes, those and taking BP meds usually need around 3-6 grams per day---this will be slightly modified based on your sodium intake and what kind of BP meds you're taking (yes, too much potassium can be an issue---just like too much of almost anything--duh :rolleyes: ). I think almost no one would need BP meds if they got their diet, exercise, and fluid intake lined up correctly.

The majority of Americans will find that they are getting less than 2 grams/day of potassium and probably in the neighborhood of 3-5 grams/day of sodium. Try writing down what you eat and drink for a few days, then add up the total potassium mg's--- I bet a lot of you will be under 3 grams/day and some under 2 grams
 
im not trying to be an ass...but all i know is our team is sponsored by gatorade...so thats what ill drink. how much does that coconut water cost?

I didn't think you were being an ass---we're here to exchange ideas, and we won't always agree. The O.N.E coconut water is between $1.65 and $1.80 per 11 oz count--- so it's not cheap :D If you're on a limited budget and/or you get Gatorade free, then by all means drink up....Towards the end of my high school sports days and the beginning of college sports I found that proper nutrition (leading up to practice or the game) and drinking tons of water was much better than Gatorade--- I always drank water during the games (this was a long time ago, though, so there have been advances :p ).

During the past 6 months or so this has been my aprx formula--- mix 8 oz of coconut water with a bottle of water, then add 10-20 grams BCAA's. The BCAA's don't mix too well, but it tastes pretty good and I don't mind the slight grittiness of the BCAA's (if you want to spruce the taste even further, you can get some flavored Pepto Pro---of course that ain't cheap either).

I have tried countless pre, during, and post workout shakes/drinks--- this is by far the most effective for me. If the coconut water and BCAA's won't put a big dent in the budget, I highly recommend trying it for a week or two during weight training
 
yea college sports are rough, and we get all kinds of gatorade stuff for free. shakes, bars, normal gatorade haha. so yea im on a tight budget and have better access to gatorade so ill probably stay with that for now...

but i might give that a try whenever i actually have money :)
 
CHALLENGE

Guys-- try replacing your sports drink with coconut water for a few workouts and see what happens

The "average" person should generally be around 2-4 grams potassium per day; those with blood pressure issues, athletes, those and taking BP meds usually need around 3-6 grams per day---this will be slightly modified based on your sodium intake and what kind of BP meds you're taking (yes, too much potassium can be an issue---just like too much of almost anything--duh :rolleyes: ). I think almost no one would need BP meds if they got their diet, exercise, and fluid intake lined up correctly.

The majority of Americans will find that they are getting less than 2 grams/day of potassium and probably in the neighborhood of 3-5 grams/day of sodium. Try writing down what you eat and drink for a few days, then add up the total potassium mg's--- I bet a lot of you will be under 3 grams/day and some under 2 grams

I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND ONE, JUST ONE DOCTOR THAT AGREES WITH THIS STATEMENT. DUDE, YOU COULD KILL SOMEONE WITH THAT CRAZY ADVICE......... MOST HIGH BP PEOPLE MAY DEVELOP KIDNEY DISEASE AND NEED TO LIMIT POTASSIUM OR THEY COULD DIE OF A HEART ATTACK.PLEASE RESEARCH MORE BEFORE YOU POST STUFF LIKE THIS. ALSO, DO A SEARCH FOR CHOCOLATE MILK AND RECOVERY TIMES, IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED.
 
I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND ONE, JUST ONE DOCTOR THAT AGREES WITH THIS STATEMENT. DUDE, YOU COULD KILL SOMEONE WITH THAT CRAZY ADVICE.........PLEASE RESEARCH MORE BEFORE YOU POST STUFF LIKE THIS. ALSO, DO A SEARCH FOR CHOCOLATE MILK AND RECOVERY TIMES, IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED.

Agree with Phil here. Dude your advice is a tad (im being nice with that word) off. You need more research and more reading before you make statements like that. Oh, and there are actually studies backing the recovery abilities of choco milk lol...no joke
 
HERE IT IS

Chocolate Milk May Improve Recovery After Exercise CME
News Author: Laurie Barclay, MD
CME Author: Désirée Lie, MD, MSEd
Disclosures

Release Date: February 27, 2006; Valid for credit through February 27, 2008 Credits Available

Physicians - maximum of 0.25 AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)™ for physicians;
Family Physicians - up to 0.25 AAFP Prescribed credit(s) for physicians



Feb. 27, 2006 — Chocolate milk is an effective postexercise drink that improves recovery, according to the results of a small, randomized trial reported in the February issue of the International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism.

"Our study indicates that chocolate milk is a strong alternative to other commercial sports drinks in helping athletes recover from strenuous, energy-depleting exercise," coauthor Joel M. Stager, PhD, from Indiana University in Bloomington, said in a news release. "Chocolate milk contains an optimal carbohydrate to protein ratio, which is critical for helping refuel tired muscles after strenuous exercise and can enable athletes to exercise at a high intensity during subsequent workouts."

On 3 separate days, 9 male, endurance-trained cyclists performed an interval workout followed by 4 hours of recovery, and a subsequent endurance trial to exhaustion at 70% maximum oxygen consumption (VO2max). In a single-blind, randomized design, the men drank equivalent volumes of chocolate milk, fluid replacement drink (FR), or carbohydrate replacement drink (CR) immediately after the first exercise bout and 2 hours of recovery. The chocolate milk and CR had equivalent carbohydrate content. Primary endpoints were time to exhaustion, average heart rate, rating of perceived exertion, and total work for the endurance exercise.

Time to exhaustion and total work were significantly greater for chocolate milk and for FR trials than for CR trials, suggesting that chocolate milk is an effective recovery aid between 2 exhausting exercise bouts.

Study limitations include the possibility that the 4-hour recovery period limited the complete digestion of the complex carbohydrates contained in CR.

"The results of this study suggest that chocolate milk, with its high carbohydrate and protein content, may be considered an effective alternative to commercial FR and CR for recovery from exhausting, glycogen-depleting exercise," the authors write.

The Dairy and Nutrition Council, Inc, supported this study in part.

Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2006;16:78-91

Clinical Context
According to the authors, the amount of stored glycogen in skeletal muscles influences exercise performance, and delaying carbohydrate ingestion for 2 hours after a workout can reduce the rate of glycogen resynthesis by half. Studies noted by the authors have suggested that 50 to 75 g of carbohydrate be ingested within 30 to 45 minutes after exercise, with ingestion of 1.2 to 1.5 g carbohydrate per kilogram of body weight per hour for the next few hours. Protein ingestion also has been shown to hasten the rate of glycogen synthesis. CR and FR, which replenish fluid and electrolytes lost during exercise but contain less carbohydrates, are 2 types of postexercise drinks that have been formulated to address glycogen synthesis and carbohydrate replacement.

The current trial is a single-blind, randomized, crossover experimental study using endurance athletes as their own controls to compare the effect of 3 types of drinks: chocolate milk, FR, and CR with the equivalent carbohydrate content of chocolate milk, on performance as measured by time to exhaustion, average heart rate, rating of perceived exertion, and total work performed.

Study Highlights
9 healthy, nonsmoking male endurance-trained cyclists aged 19 to 22 years with weight range of 68 to 82 kg from one university were recruited for the study.
Each subject participated in 4 testing sessions with each session separated by 1 week.
All subjects kept a dietary record for 3 days prior to the sessions and refrained from heavy exercise within 24 hours.
The first session consisted of an incremental exercise test on a cycle ergometer to determine VO2max and maximum power output at VO2max.
The remaining 3 sessions were conducted as a randomized crossover design and consisted of 2 bouts of cycling to exhaustion separated by 4 hours of recovery.
The first bout consisted of alternating periods of work and recovery in an interval format until glycogen depletion.
During the 4-hour recovery period, athletes were offered equal volumes of low fat chocolate milk (The Kroger Co) or FR (Gatorade) or CR (Endurox).
The carbohydrate content of chocolate milk and CR were similar.
Following the recovery period, the second exercise bout was performed at 70% VO2max until exhaustion to maintain their previous pedal cadence (85 - 100 rpm).
Cyclists were not allowed to stand on pedals while cycling.
Investigators were blinded to allocation of fluids, which were in opaque bottles.
Blood samples from fingertips were taken for lactate levels prior to and on completion of each exercise trial and at 2 hours into the recovery period.
Subjects were permitted to freely drink water, but no other food was allowed during the recovery period.
Both time to exhaustion and total work performed during the endurance performance ride were significantly greater (P < .05) in the chocolate milk and FR trials vs the CR trial.
Subjects cycled 49% and 54% longer following chocolate milk and FR ingestion vs CR ingestion.
Total amount of work performed was 57% and 48% greater for chocolate milk and FR ingestion vs the CR ingestion.
No significant differences occurred in any other variables, including heart rate, rating of perceived exertion during the endurance performance trials, and postexercise lactate levels.
Body mass index and total body water did not differ between treatments.
Total amount of water consumed was similar for the 3 groups.
No significant differences occurred in macronutrient content of diets for the athletes before the trial.
Pearls for Practice
Low-fat chocolate milk and FR ingestion as recovery fluids are associated with greater endurance in terms of time to exhaustion vs a CR for cycling in male endurance athletes.
Chocolate milk and FR ingestion as recovery fluids are associated with greater work performed at 70% VO2max in male endurance cyclists.
 

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