The IGF1/GH/slin/T3/CLEN/test/dbol cycle. Aim=50lbs. Opinions sought!

[Mac]

Here goes, been training for about 5 years seriously, and 2 years without much dedication. Im age 24, 6ft, 220lbs 12-13%. Done 4 three month cycles and a shorter cycle.

Im planning a 5 month cycle with the aim of getting 50lbs heavier (quality mass - i.e. 40lbs muscle).

HGH 8iu/ (7 days on 0 off) weeks 1-21 - split dose AM and post workout (7pm)
IGF1 50mcg weeks 1-4,9-12,17-20
Slin work up to 10iu post workout only, fast acting, with 100g simple carbs.


Test suspension or prop either 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off throughout or 4 on 4 off. Clomid during "off weeks". Clen 6 tabs on "off weeks".

Adex 0.5mg EOD throughout
Finasteride 1mg ED throughout

T3 - for bulking - dose and pattern undecided at present.

week
1 IGF HGH SLin test
2 IGF HGH SLin test
3 IGF HGH SLin clomid clen
4 IGF HGH SLin clomid clen
5 HGH SLin test
6 HGH SLin test
7 HGH SLin clomid clen
8 HGH SLin clomid clen
9 IGF HGH SLin test
10 IGF HGH SLin test
11 IGF HGH SLin clomid clen
12 IGF HGH SLin clomid clen
13 HGH SLin test
14 HGH SLin test
15 HGH SLin clomid clen
16 HGH SLin clomid clen
17 IGF HGH SLin test
18 IGF HGH SLin test
19 IGF HGH SLin clomid clen
20 IGF HGH SLin clomid clen
21 IGF HGH SLin clomid clen

Alternatively I might just run the test for 12 weeks straight (most likely plan), with dbol to start for 6 weeks. If I do that then clen will still be 2 on 2 off. Test will be at 700-1000mg / week no matter what.

I will eat 100g simple carbs and 100g whey protein after workout with the slin. Then my normal meal an hour later.

I will eat 1000cals over my maintainance. Eating double bodyweight in protein.

Im looking to add 50lbs over the 5 months (21 weeks) of which I hope 40lbs will be lean body mass

What do you think?

 

[Juice Freak]

I'd dro the finestride completely, I don't like having no dht in my body it makes me look softer and I feel like shit, if you're worried about your hair, use topical anti-androgens, if you're worried about your prostate use, a saw palmetto post cycle. T3 12.5mcg is the "best" dose for bulking. Rest of it looks decent for the most part, a few strange ideas in there. Do I think you can gain 40lbs or rip in 5 months???? Stranger things have happened, I just hope you have your diet nailed down, and a good training program.

 

[dirkmoneyshot]

I mean no offense here - but do you know how unhealthy you will be by adding 50 lb in 5 months?? That is a huge strain on your heart and organs.

Also to add that much quality weight (that your thinking) is practically impossible.

I would suggest re thinking your goals and plan.

 

[Crowler]

Perhaps set your sights a little lower. 50lbs is ALOT of weight. Then you will consider the cycle successful if you gain and retain say 15 lbs.

Especially when you consider that in 5 cycles over 7 years you have gained about 15 to 20lbs. Now in 6 months you want to gain and keep 40lbs of muscle.


CROWLER

 

[vitor]

Hmmm Side note, You should eat more then 1000 kcals above maintence. There is no way to put on 50lbs pounds of pure lean mass. I would say tone it down, I mean shit 25lbs in 4 months would be cool right? Then you do the ghslin to keep that then reevaluate.

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

Im just amazed at people who without a second thought, incriminate themselves online. I have seen two cases now where a judge oked a search warrant by being presented with printout copies of what someone said online "incriminating themselves".....both those guys had the same attitude that most people on boards have "oh they arent after me they want bigger fish to fry"....well one is serving 3 plus years in lomptoc, the other I have no idea what happened to him. If you live outside of the US then please accept my apology, if you live inside the US i would state it is of my opinion that you might want to make posts like this with reference to "someone you know who lives in Europe or Mexico" where this would be legal.

 

[Massive G]

I guess you are going to post this on every board out there till you hear what you want.
**broken link removed**

I stand by what I said and am prompted to write a long ass post on how people over drug them selves with waay too much shit of the wrong types times and heavy assed cycles.

Far more gained less damage to the pocket book physche and physiology with way less than that and the basics.

Is everybody on the planet on IGF, GH and slin now?

And we wonder why the PROS look so bad....
good luck with whatever path you choose.....
PEACE

 

[Steak Helmet]

Amazing...simply amazing how people expect MAGIC overnight.

This is a long process...people here can tell that no amount of drugs will build 50lbs of quailty mass in 5 months...

Well if you do post progress pics of the amazing results.

be of luck and make sure you RESEARCH your ass off before doing this...and not just the GEAR part of it either

 

[G.E.R.M]

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first off i know there was gonna be a low post count with a thread like this..

secondly... DC

so if i were to say i am the drug kingpin of florida... they could get a warrant...?

i mean who is to say whats true and whats not on here...

this guy might not even have the things he is speaking about...

i understand what ur saying however and more secrecy should be used...

 

[IronMike]

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Are you planning on competing? At your age, what's the hurry to get 50lb in 5 months? Why not keep your cycles simpler, cheaper and work towards it long term?

I wouldn't put a figure on the weight you want to gain - at least not that specific. Pick a good cycle (say, test, deca, dbal for 12-16 weeks), nail your diet, train hard and see where you end up. Particularly cos you said you haven;'t been giving your training full commitment, this seems like an over the top approach.

IronMike

 

[knucklehed]

I would have to agree

Over the top.

 

[Big A]

Well, if you want that to have any chance of succeeding, while the gh/igf-1 is ok, you need the test non stop throughout the 5 months, and orals like d-bol or a-50 alternating, 4 weeks on 4 weeks off. An inj anabolic thoughout thrown in there wouldn't hurt either.

Insulin would have to be at least twice a day. Metformin should be used on the days that you don't use insulin.
The insulin should be 4 weeks on 4 weeks off as well, preferably during the same time as the orals.

It's doable, but you cannot miss any meals, training sessions or sleep. You cannot be stressed with anything else in your life either and definetely don't do any other rec drugs, etc.

 

[BRADHOLLIBAUGH]

No offense but your goals are unrealistic and the things your talking of taking are not healthy or advisable.Where do you guys come up with these ridiculous cycles?
Alot of you on here need a reality check regarding dosages and proper usage .
I would never consider using half the crap you are prescibing to yourself.
There are no miracle cycles guys ....just put the years in the gym,train right ,stay away from recreational drugs,and get proper rest with some gh and anabolics thrown in to maximize your potential.
Brad

 

[DOGGCRAPP]

first off i know there was gonna be a low post count with a thread like this..

secondly... DC

so if i were to say i am the drug kingpin of florida... they could get a warrant...?

i mean who is to say whats true and whats not on here...

this guy might not even have the things he is speaking about...

i understand what ur saying however and more secrecy should be used...

germ Im just telling you what happened--if you want to pm me ill give you the guys name that went to lomptoc for 3 plus years, where he is from and you can look the story up or even ask him yourself. I know about this because I remember where he said it (online) and I remember him going to that same section later(online) while he was on bail and telling everyone "this is what happened to me, this is how it was done, and I would suggest you dont do it" (incrimination)---I checked the story out and it was 100% true as it was in the papers

 

[AWN2004]

Good lord....50lbs in 5 months. Id be happy with 10-12 good quality lbs in 5 months actualy Id be stoked as hell! Seems way over the top and unless you have a never ending supply of cash, its gonna be expensive as hell too. Food is as anabolic as any AAS and in my opinion run a good dose of test with an anabolic and see what happens. This just seems like almost candy land reading that. It just seems out of reach.

 

[Skip]

Bugs Bunny - "What a maroon".

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[Mac]

The cycle was originally planned for this time next year. I was planning on using it to help propell myself into competition. By the time of that cycle I would hopefully have done an AAS cycle and be 10lbs heavier. I guess i am being unrealistic, but it was based on a discusssion I had wiith a pro who did similar GH/slin and gained 40lbs - obviously he will have better genetics but i didnt see why I should short change myself.

I guess i will just do another regular AAS cycle.


Though my question is when do you think it reasonable to do this kind of cycle?


And MassiveGmax - I am not posting on every board to hear one guy say what I want to here then go and do it. I posted on 3 boards so I could get a range of opinions. We all know people with the same views can congregate on some boards so I thought it good to take 3 boards that I respect. I got the information I needed to here, and because I heard it on 3 different boards I can be sure it is correct - and therefore I will postpone.

 

[G.E.R.M]

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germ Im just telling you what happened--if you want to pm me ill give you the guys name that went to lomptoc for 3 plus years, where he is from and you can look the story up or even ask him yourself. I know about this because I remember where he said it (online) and I remember him going to that same section later(online) while he was on bail and telling everyone "this is what happened to me, this is how it was done, and I would suggest you dont do it" (incrimination)---I checked the story out and it was 100% true as it was in the papers

i aint doubting it DC, i think i remember the story...

however...there has to be some other PC to cooroberate(sp) the interenet stories for a warrant i would think..

well in any event its best not to advertise the drugs you have in your posession.

 

[Massive G]

The cycle was originally planned for this time next year. I was planning on using it to help propell myself into competition. By the time of that cycle I would hopefully have done an AAS cycle and be 10lbs heavier. I guess i am being unrealistic, but it was based on a discusssion I had wiith a pro who did similar GH/slin and gained 40lbs - obviously he will have better genetics but i didnt see why I should short change myself.

I guess i will just do another regular AAS cycle.


Though my question is when do you think it reasonable to do this kind of cycle?


And MassiveGmax - I am not posting on every board to hear one guy say what I want to here then go and do it. I posted on 3 boards so I could get a range of opinions. We all know people with the same views can congregate on some boards so I thought it good to take 3 boards that I respect. I got the information I needed to here, and because I heard it on 3 different boards I can be sure it is correct - and therefore I will postpone.

PROPS to you for reconsidering the plan.
Most people don't.
PEACE.

 

[MikeS]

however...there has to be some other PC to cooroberate(sp) the interenet stories for a warrant i would think..

Man, Probable Cause has gone out the window along with the personal rights we are supposed to have, when 'freedom' was what this country is about.

Now, red light cameras, soberity checkpoints, street corner cameras; 2 local girls were prohibited from attending their prom here locally-because they allegedly said, to a newpaper reporter, they might drink afterwards. No film was made of the statement, its hearsay, and the girls denied it. You get penalized for just saying thing nowdays.

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As for the original post, everyone wants a shortcut, a quick fix.
'propel me into competition'. Man it takes years of work and there is no way around that. Accept that. You aint gaining 50lbs of lean mass in 5mo. And half kill yourself trying.