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Third Cycle Critique

ryduck1990

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Here is the cycle protocol I came up with 10 weeks bulking/6 weeks cutting

6'2"
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13.87 percent body fat (Bod Pod Tested 3/4/11)

Weeks AAS Dose per week/day Total Dosage
1-4 Testosterone Ethanate 200mg EOD 2,800mg
5-10 Testosterone Ethanate 400mg E4D 4,000mg
1-4 Testosterone Prop 100mg EOD 1,400mg
11-16 Testosterone Prop 50mg EOD 2,100mg
9-11 Primobolan Ethanate 600mg E4D 3,000mg
12-14 Primobolan Ethanate 800mg E4D 4,000mg
15-16 Primobolan Ethanate 1 gram E4D 4,000mg
11-16 Anavar 420mg/60mg ED 2,520mg
1-18 HCG 250IU E4D 10,000IU
17-18 Clomid 700mg/100 mg ED 700mg
18-19 Clomid 350mg/50mg ED 1,400mg
1-16 Armidex 0.25mg ED 28.0mg
1-18 Proviron 50mg ED 6,650mg
2011 HGH 8IU 5on/2off -----------
 

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i don't really know how to read that...?
-JS
 

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Maths wasn't your best subject was it? :D
 

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Why you doing test e at eod then changing it to e4d at the same weekly dose? Do you think that will keep your body guessing in some ways? If your doing that then why are you upping the likes of primo really quickly. Ending at 600mg you will be starting 1g 2 weeks later. I don't see the need. I would change the layout of your cycle or even add 4 weeks on to the 2nd part and use what is needed before moving up. You could still be getting results on 600mg then you just jumo up to 800mg... no need imo. It will work I just think you could lay it out much better.
 
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Here is the cycle protocol I came up with 10 weeks bulking/6 weeks cutting

6'2"
255
13.87 percent body fat (Bod Pod Tested 3/4/11)

Weeks AAS Dose per week/day Total Dosage
1-4 Testosterone Ethanate 200mg EOD 2,800mg
5-10 Testosterone Ethanate 400mg E4D 4,000mg
1-4 Testosterone Prop 100mg EOD 1,400mg
11-16 Testosterone Prop 50mg EOD 2,100mg
9-11 Primobolan Ethanate 600mg E4D 3,000mg
12-14 Primobolan Ethanate 800mg E4D 4,000mg
15-16 Primobolan Ethanate 1 gram E4D 4,000mg
11-16 Anavar 420mg/60mg ED 2,520mg
1-18 HCG 250IU E4D 10,000IU
17-18 Clomid 700mg/100 mg ED 700mg
18-19 Clomid 350mg/50mg ED 1,400mg
1-16 Armidex 0.25mg ED 28.0mg
1-18 Proviron 50mg ED 6,650mg
2011 HGH 8IU 5on/2off -----------


ok so you are putting the week, the compound, the dosing frequency, dose, and total milligrams needed?

If so looks cool. What kinda feedback did you want? I am sure you will grow on it, its a lot of hormones
 

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the more i use AAS the more i realize some people way over think things , wanting to runn alot of compounds ant all kinds of varying doses.
Keep it simple.

what are your goals?
are you planning to do a show?
just get to a certain size?
 

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Sorry about the confusion

I wrote up my diet/training/aas cycle on a microsoft word calendar and just copied and pasted it on a thread here that is why it looks so wierd.

Basically here is what I have to work with:

10 Test Prop (UG Lab - Trusted source)
3 Test E (UG as well)
15,000mg Homebrewed Primobolan Ethanate
4,500 mg Liquid Anavar (UG as well same source as above)

I taking prop to frontload or get the test into my system faster and drop after 4 weeks and then stick to Test E. I have heard a lot of conflicting answers about Primo about how much you need to take, and since this my first cutting cycle with Primo, I really don't know how long it needs to be taken and what dose is the best to take for length?
 

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Goals

As of right now, I have 220 lean mass with 35 pounds of fat. After this cycle I want to do be at least 235-240 lean mass and 260 tops with total body fat.

Basically drop 15 pounds of fat and gain 15-20 pounds lean mass.

Is this douable?
 

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This is overkill. That's all I'm going to say other than...ridiculous!
 

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This is overkill. That's all I'm going to say other than...ridiculous!

i agree with this guy..
it appears what you want to accomplish would be wasted time, gear and money!
assuming your diet in check?
drop the test e/primo
prop eod @ 100mg
var thu-out @ 1/2 the dose
gh 8iu ed? 4iu ed.. 2iu am/2iu pm
and all the other crap..hcg.prov.armi.clom reconsider usage/dosage
 

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Assuming by your screen name, are you 21?

If so, that is way too much for a 21 year old.
 

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dont you start a thread like this every week? im pretty sure everyone has weighed in so far...
 

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and you have a girls name for your avatar!:D:p:)





and i did struggle at math. :eek:

-JS

I wasn't referring to you haha. I meant him. He put test e at 200mg eod and 800mg total for the week.

I had your opinion... he overcomplicated the layout of the thread and he has overcomplicated the cycle itself.

And yes I stupidly have a girls name for my screen name. I started on another forum and didn't think I would take it that seriously and just done my gf's name. Then I thought I should keep the same so people know who I am. But yes I regret it now. I wish I could change it and keep my post count. I will probably just start again soon.

:)
 

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dont you start a thread like this every week? im pretty sure everyone has weighed in so far...

Your right. Didn't I reply in his last thread. I think the conclusion of that one was people thinking he was overcomplicating and doing too much. Oh and didn't have a clue. He was asking really basic questions but had homebrewed 15g primo so the warning signs were there.

Are you just waiting for someone to say yes that is good then you will do it? Just do it if you really want to. I imagine most think your overcomplicating things. Diet is everything for your aims.

Your bf has gone down alot. I strongly predict your bf is much higher. Please post a pic and everyone can give you better advice.
 

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That is a shit load of juice , assuming that you have maxed out your genetic potential which i highly doubt , your going to lose alot of what you gain on this cycle.

if it were me i'd get on a good diet geared toward my goals so your not trying to rely on drugs to cut your bodyfat.

weeks 1-8 , 1g primo , 500mg test E a week , 20mg Nolvadex/ed

weeks 8-16 , 1g primo , 300mg Mastron a week , 50mg winstrol ed

add in 250iu HCG every 4th day to keep the balls in shape thoughout the cycle , add more nolvadex as needed , have Arimidex on hand if gyno flairs up.

this isin't rocket science and their is no reason to stick yourself or constantly swap up compounds. this combined with a good diet and 6-8iu HGH/ed should get your body fat well below where you want it and lean mass up to where you want it.

the question is what do you think your gonna keep from all this as in what will your natural hormone be able to support when you come clean?
 

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