Timing of GH around slin

[nidal ak]

which is the best approach from your experience or research?

 

[heavyhitter]

Dr. Serrano says that GH preworkout is best. He says they are counter-regulatory, but not counter active. On a personal level i've always felt better when using slin pre and GH post.

 

[AshopRep]

Preworkout

 

[nidal ak]

I don't mean timing during the day

 

[pieguy]

Preworkout

Where does the slin fit in? Pin HGH, 30 min later pin slin? Or pin hgh pre, slin post?

 

[nidal ak]

Dr. Serrano says take your Gh pre workout so your Igf levels are the highest during your workout.
but where does the slin fit here? before gh, after gh or post workout on its own?

 

[nidal ak]

what i used to do is, take gh and wait 20 minutes then take slin with carbs, glutamine and creatine. an hour and a half later solid meal.

after reading more, some people mentioned that taking gh then slin 10 or 20 minutes apart is not a good idea.

any thoughts?

P.s. when i use slin i do it 3 times a day (am, pre and post) just don't know where the gh goes to maximize igf levels and push all the nutrients to the muscles without hindering their (gh, slin) effect

 

[nidal ak]

Farah:

Slin (**iu)
then 12oz juice
20G glutamine

20Mins later 6 tablespoons of honey 1 cup oatmeal 60g hydrowhey and 2 bananas.


Chad:

slin (**iu)
then dextrose (up to 150grams), glutamine, bcaa
30min later complex carbs (oats)+simple carbs (raisins,bananas)+fast protein (whey protein)

regular meal (potatoes with beef or chicken and rice)

very similar protocols but no one mentions the time of the gh, btw the above protocol are taken from other threads here

 

[JustWannaBeHuge]

i take them both at the same time

 

[Knight9]

i take them both at the same time

Different pins?

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[JustWannaBeHuge]

Different pins?

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Yes, I take GH IM, slin is sub q. I'm sure it makes no difference in the long run, but it's how I prefer to take it.

 

[nothuman]

take gh then slin 30 minutes later

 

[Superheavy]

Wouldn't it depend on the slin your using? Because GH would peak faster than say humilin R if you pin at the same time.

 

[Goody]

Ideally
My research animals take their gh about 2 hours before training
Hum-r is given 45-30 mins pre workout
They eat 1/2 cup of cream of rice with 60 grams isolate and 1 tbs coconut oil mixed in betw the two injections
20 mins or so after hum r they begin sipping a mix of 2 liters water, 10 grams creatine, 20 grams glutamine, 10 grams of bcaa with extra leucine added
And 80 grams of dextrose coming from gatoraid powder
They continue to sip this mixture throughout the workout till it is finished

 

[nidal ak]

Ideally
My research animals take their gh about 2 hours before training
Hum-r is given 45-30 mins pre workout
They eat 1/2 cup of cream of rice with 60 grams isolate and 1 tbs coconut oil mixed in betw the two injections
20 mins or so after hum r they begin sipping a mix of 2 liters water, 10 grams creatine, 20 grams glutamine, 10 grams of bcaa with extra leucine added
And 80 grams of dextrose coming from gatoraid powder
They continue to sip this mixture throughout the workout till it is finished

the cream of rice and the coconut oil kinda reminds me of someone's approach only with peptopro (hydo casian) during workout on top of the stuff you mentioned


so gh then you wait an hour and a half or an hour 45 minutes then slin.... interesting
any reason for that spacing, because this is what i am trying to understand

question to Dr Serreno through J.M:
how much time between gh and slin and why (scientifically)

 

[Google&Pubmed]

If I am not mistaking they are both synthetic so they shouldn't effect on another.

If you want to take slin and GH together it is the best to take it pre-workout (IMO).

 

[Google&Pubmed]

Yes, I take GH IM, slin is sub q. I'm sure it makes no difference in the long run, but it's how I prefer to take it.

I can't remember what slin did if you took it IM. It would "hit" you faster?

Can't you take them both in the same syringe IM? I think at this post I would start over thinking it.

 

[heavyhitter]

If I am not mistaking they are both synthetic so they shouldn't effect on another.

If you want to take slin and GH together it is the best to take it pre-workout (IMO).

Basically this. Insulin counter regulates GH naturally in the body. But using exogenous insulin will not effect exogenous GH. The only thing I would really time would be the peaks

 

[AshopRep]

I can't remember what slin did if you took it IM. It would "hit" you faster?

Can't you take them both in the same syringe IM? I think at this post I would start over thinking it.

I've always taken slin IM.

 

[nidal ak]

I've always taken slin IM.

yes I know that some people take slin pre-wo and inject it in the muscle they are going (high volu)

so if chest..... 10iu in left side chest and 10iu in the right side