Trenbolone Acetate: Crazy joint healing??

[Landmonster]

Hey guys.

I just discovered something by accident, which I wanted to run by some veterans.

TLDR version: Tren seems to have substantially reduced my joint pain. I had not heard of Tren having this effect before, so I was surprised.

Anyway, I have always run traditional, conservative cycles... 500-900mg Test + 300-600mg Anabolic (Deca, Eq, or NPP), + some peptides.

I recently have run out of some "supplies" (including all my Test, GH, peps, etc), so now I am down to nothing but Tren Ace and NPP. I have used NPP before, but never Tren Ace. I want to acknowledge that this is my own fault for running out of stuff!

/flamesuit on.


I decided to run a 2 week experiment of NOTHING but 700mg Tren Ace, and 300mg NPP. (No orals, no peps or GH, no test, etc)

I wanted to jump on the high-Tren low-test bandwagon. (What could be a better experiment than high-tren with no test?)

/Additional flamesuit on.

Anyway, after less than 1 week of this protocol.... the results have been amazing. I have been lifting every day with no days off, and a clean diet.

Two things:

1) My physique has literally been changing by the day. I have somehow GAINED 3lbs, while my waist has shrunk somewhat. My arms, shoulders, legs, chest and back have taken on a different, fuller 3D "look" now.

2) I used to have killer joint pain in my elbows and shoulders... which have only temporarily "lessened" at times (but never fully gone away) with high-dosed Cissus and BPC-157.


I can honestly say that with 700mg Tren Ace and 300 NPP my elbows and joints feel better than they have in over a year. I was able to rep out 140lb cable push-downs and 125lb skull crushers tonight with virtually no pain.

Is this normal? Has anyone else experienced this?

The only 2 changes in my protocol have been completely eliminating testosterone, and adding in high-dosed Tren.

 

[Ehren]

I get this from NPP. Thats what Id credit the lessened joint pain to.

Ive done what you have taking tren alone. Ive run everything alone at some point to see what it does. I looked great on tren alone, but, get some test ordered man. I hate test, but in a couple weeks you may begin having problems, feeling rundown, or worse...libido issues. Careful.

Some people get issues, some do just fine with Tren or deca alone. I have a buddy that runs deca alone year round. Hes never experienced any problems at all. But most would.

 

[sammy555]

My joint always feel great on tren. I've never known why. Npp did nothing for my joints strangly

 

[beastmode121]

Tren makes me feel great over all.. Even my skin looks great.. anxiety and other sides suck

 

[Landmonster]

My joint always feel great on tren. I've never known why. Npp did nothing for my joints strangly

We know that Tren drastically increases IGF-1 levels right?

Couldn't the high levels of IGF-1 accelerate joint/tendon healing?

Also, Tren could do this better in the absence of test, which is known to weaken tendons.

 

[jm425]

We know that Tren drastically increases IGF-1 levels right?

Couldn't the high levels of IGF-1 accelerate joint/tendon healing?

Also, Tren could do this better in the absence of test, which is known to weaken tendons.

Tren doesn't increase igf significantly enough to "feel" healing in your joints. What you're probably feeling is the anti-inflammatory properties of NPP.

 

[Gurth]

Tren doesn't increase igf significantly enough to "feel" healing in your joints. What you're probably feeling is the anti-inflammatory properties of NPP.

that is is ,,,I was going to say that it is like deca:headbang:

 

[Landmonster]

Tren doesn't increase igf significantly enough to "feel" healing in your joints. What you're probably feeling is the anti-inflammatory properties of NPP.

Except I've taken both NPP and Deca before with high doses of Test, and neither have helped my elbows like this.

 

[ugadawg91]

My buddy has had knee issues for a decade, ran tren for first time and the pain stopped overtime and he could squat for the first time since high school

 

[bigboy012111]

Hey HAVNT posted before but I've read several articles that it released significant amounts of igf and can help repair tendons. Also ur injuries are kinda safe guarded cause the anabolic rating is 500 so ur muscles have a crazy pump. Protecting the injuries kinda Ike a sausage casing.

Hope that makes sense. All nor 19 family AAS does this but tren ace does it best


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[Landmonster]

Hey HAVNT posted before but I've read several articles that it released significant amounts of igf and can help repair tendons. Also ur injuries are kinda safe guarded cause the anabolic rating is 500 so ur muscles have a crazy pump. Protecting the injuries kinda Ike a sausage casing.

Hope that makes sense. All nor 19 family AAS does this but tren ace does it best


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I truly was not even expecting Tren to help my joints. It was not something I was looking forward to, or hoping for. I simply observed this by accident. I cannot think of other explanations, since Tren is the only factor that I have changed in my routine.

This is why I was asking if anyone else had experienced this.

I am not using gh, peptides, or joint supplements whatsoever.

 

[bigboy012111]

Let me put it up you this way, my arm is so messed up its scary. If I stand for more then an hour the pain in my shoulder is so bad that I almost throw up. On 400mgs of tren a week, there was no pain, more so the tears healed. That's when I started to heavily read and research this. Yes tren releases a lot of igf mimicking gh. The only thing that works even better is large doses of anavar and gh itself.


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[reconstrong]

I need to try this as my joints are terrible

 

[Super $ingh]

Tren ace made my joints significantly worse when I ran it. Only deca helps get rid of the injuries

 

[bigboy012111]

That's strange since deca and tren r both nor 19 s. Could be the mixture you got. Sure it was decent tren ace?


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[epoxy]

i'll say this....

i was on tren ace for about 9 months 100mg ED, my elbow and shoulder pain went from excruciating to manageable over that period of time, all the while continuing to lift heavy. i thought it was pretty odd personally, i also didn't start feeling ok until about 3 months in. i came off of the tren ace 2 weeks ago....lol. Full body pain 24/7. Just jumped back on Deca because I couldn't deal with that shit right now.

 

[Landmonster]

That's strange since deca and tren r both nor 19 s. Could be the mixture you got. Sure it was decent tren ace?


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I am not sure of the quality. It was from a sponsor who is no longer here, who sold them in the 60ml bottles. Also I have no tren to compare it to.

 

[bigboy012111]

Hmmm 60ml bottle?! Wow. Ok did it have a strong odor to it? Was it a dark yellow? When u pissed was it brown?


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[bigboy012111]

i'll say this....



i was on tren ace for about 9 months 100mg ED, my elbow and shoulder pain went from excruciating to manageable over that period of time, all the while continuing to lift heavy. i thought it was pretty odd personally, i also didn't start feeling ok until about 3 months in. i came off of the tren ace 2 weeks ago....lol. Full body pain 24/7. Just jumped back on Deca because I couldn't deal with that shit right now.

I feel you man. I only stoped cause I was on it so long and I know it's bad for kidneys. I'm blessed after using it for almost a full year I'm ok. I might get some deca cause the pain I'm in. It's like daggers in my joints


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[Landmonster]

Hmmm 60ml bottle?! Wow. Ok did it have a strong odor to it? Was it a dark yellow? When u pissed was it brown?


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